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<p>[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 569198, member: 11668"]The problem with "ladder" is that people apply it to all sorts of things, all of which are kinda-sorta similar to a perfect ladder like 12345678, but not very similar to each other. So pretty soon the word ends up covering almost anything if you're not careful....</p><p><br /></p><p>For example, people might apply the word "ladder" to:</p><p><br /></p><p>-stuttering ladders like 11234445 or even 11245779</p><p>-ladder progressives like 00012345 or 67890000</p><p>-ladderish numbers with random zeroes thrown in, as 34050678</p><p>-serials like you mentioned above, as 12 13 14 15 or 78 79 80 81</p><p>-the same with extra zeroes allowed, as 56 0 57 0 58 or even 56 57 00 58</p><p><br /></p><p>At some point one has to draw the line. It's pretty well agreed that the five numbers Dursin mentioned are definitely ladders, plus 98765432 back when it used to be printed. Beyond that, some people won't agree with the term "ladder" being applied, so better to leave them out to avoid an argument.</p><p><br /></p><p>(Personally, I think 11245779 is "more of a ladder" than 12131415. But that's a vague enough concept that I don't expect anyone else to *care* what I think, frankly.... <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />)</p><p><br /></p><p>And, y'know, I thought I'd posted something like this thread way-back-when as well, but I can't now find it either. Must've been a mass hallucination or something.... Anyway, thanks for the calculations, Dursin! <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie6" alt=":cool:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Numbers, post: 569198, member: 11668"]The problem with "ladder" is that people apply it to all sorts of things, all of which are kinda-sorta similar to a perfect ladder like 12345678, but not very similar to each other. So pretty soon the word ends up covering almost anything if you're not careful.... For example, people might apply the word "ladder" to: -stuttering ladders like 11234445 or even 11245779 -ladder progressives like 00012345 or 67890000 -ladderish numbers with random zeroes thrown in, as 34050678 -serials like you mentioned above, as 12 13 14 15 or 78 79 80 81 -the same with extra zeroes allowed, as 56 0 57 0 58 or even 56 57 00 58 At some point one has to draw the line. It's pretty well agreed that the five numbers Dursin mentioned are definitely ladders, plus 98765432 back when it used to be printed. Beyond that, some people won't agree with the term "ladder" being applied, so better to leave them out to avoid an argument. (Personally, I think 11245779 is "more of a ladder" than 12131415. But that's a vague enough concept that I don't expect anyone else to *care* what I think, frankly.... :rolleyes:) And, y'know, I thought I'd posted something like this thread way-back-when as well, but I can't now find it either. Must've been a mass hallucination or something.... Anyway, thanks for the calculations, Dursin! :cool:[/QUOTE]
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