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<p>[QUOTE="Ken Dorney, post: 3546332, member: 76086"]I've beaten Clio on coins before and got them cheaply, so its hard to say how big an impact these wealthy collectors really have in any segment of the market. It can just depend on what they choose to collect. There have always been a few billionaires present and active at most points in time the last few decades. They come and go. There will always be someone out there who has the ability to pay more than the rest of us.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with this. It really depends on what you definitions are and what you choose to include as your data. If one removes top end coins out of the general mix, the numbers go way down.</p><p><br /></p><p>My take on the market: </p><p><br /></p><p>Greek coins in general are soft, especially so for anything less than EF, but then that can be said for all categories. </p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Republican has been hot for quite a while. Average prices seem to have gone up quite a bit even for lesser quality coins, with most starting $75 for F-aVF, $150 for good VF.</p><p><br /></p><p>Roman Imperial. Too many sub categories to give a straight answer. 1st Century is always hot and increasing. Prices in general always seem to decrease with the centuries, ending with Byzantine as the cheapest and least desirable.</p><p><br /></p><p>Byzantine. Always stagnant overall with the exception of gold being as Oz mentioned as a simple bullion type coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>In general, I would say that the ancients market as a whole is strong. Is it growing? Yes, I think it is. For a long time now. And I think it will only grow more as more modern collectors migrate over to our 'dark side'. It is easy to notice that the best quality coins are always the strongest, lesser qualities the weakest.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ken Dorney, post: 3546332, member: 76086"]I've beaten Clio on coins before and got them cheaply, so its hard to say how big an impact these wealthy collectors really have in any segment of the market. It can just depend on what they choose to collect. There have always been a few billionaires present and active at most points in time the last few decades. They come and go. There will always be someone out there who has the ability to pay more than the rest of us. I agree with this. It really depends on what you definitions are and what you choose to include as your data. If one removes top end coins out of the general mix, the numbers go way down. My take on the market: Greek coins in general are soft, especially so for anything less than EF, but then that can be said for all categories. Roman Republican has been hot for quite a while. Average prices seem to have gone up quite a bit even for lesser quality coins, with most starting $75 for F-aVF, $150 for good VF. Roman Imperial. Too many sub categories to give a straight answer. 1st Century is always hot and increasing. Prices in general always seem to decrease with the centuries, ending with Byzantine as the cheapest and least desirable. Byzantine. Always stagnant overall with the exception of gold being as Oz mentioned as a simple bullion type coin. In general, I would say that the ancients market as a whole is strong. Is it growing? Yes, I think it is. For a long time now. And I think it will only grow more as more modern collectors migrate over to our 'dark side'. It is easy to notice that the best quality coins are always the strongest, lesser qualities the weakest.[/QUOTE]
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