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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;cladking, post: 2763473, member: 68&quot;]I&#039;m sure a lot of the plastic sleeves without the white strip (high speed specimens) came in a &quot;fake&quot; red envelope.&nbsp; The color was off a little (orangish), there was no heavy cardboard insert, and it was flimsier. These &quot;fake&quot; envelopes always carried the high speed coins.&nbsp; Wholesalers, in the old days, specifically omitted the high speed coins (no white stripe) from their buy offers and most of these have been melted.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m not certain any of these high speed ones appeared in the red and white envelopes but I believe a few did.</p><p><br /></p><p>As I recall the best mint set quality specimens are in the red envelopes but those in the red and white were slightly better on average.&nbsp; There&#039;s not much difference and my experience could be sample error.&nbsp; I&#039;ve never been a huge fan of these and didn&#039;t even always look at them when I was looking at mint sets.&nbsp; They are interesting coins and there are some really nice Gems.&nbsp; The average quality is very high though so the Gems don&#039;t really jump out at you.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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