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Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by TAS2826, Jul 27, 2005.

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  1. Draco

    Draco New Member

    Greetings,
    I should have said, I was surprised the grade was that high, as I expected much lower.They just look very well circulated.
    Bruce
     
    Draco, Oct 8, 2005
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  3. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    SGS on ebay 1904 O Morgan


    So I take it that this 1904 O morgan that is claimed to be SGS MS68 is utter nonsense especially since PCSG is claiming that almost none exist over MS64

    This is the coin. Looking at it is looks to my amature eye as maybe a 61?

    What do I know? Is it worth the $400 minimum?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8341992110&fromMakeTrack=true

    http://images.andale.com/f2/106/125/17298112/1130111245159_1904_f_68_sgs.jpg


    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 9, 2005
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  4. silvrluvr

    silvrluvr Senior Member

    That's a pretty good looking Morgan, but even at MS65-PQ, The reserve seems a little high. The PCGS prices make it look like a very commonly available date up to at least MS66....
     
    silvrluvr, Oct 9, 2005
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Uhhh - yeah.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 9, 2005
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  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Ah thanks for answering

    Now I have a question about the PCGS numbers. There are three listed in the online price guide. How do you know which one you have. One seems to be proof like and the other is deep mirror proof like? It took a few hours to figure this out ;)

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 9, 2005
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  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    With a Morgan dollar that is DMPL ( deep mirror proof like ) you can hold the coin up to a page of written text and actually read the text in the reflection on the coin with the coin held from 4 to 8 inches away. If you can't - it isn't.

    A Proof Like coin will have a similar appearance to a Proof but not quite there. The fields will be reflective, but not quite the mirror like finish of a Proof. The devices will have the cameo effect, appearing frosty in contrast to the reflective fields.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 9, 2005
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  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    Good. But why would PCGS then give those coins different numbers when they are really just different grades of a single species of coin.

    How would the coins get that level of reflectivity when there was no proof strikes for that year. I would think that this can only happen intentionally. Aren't proofs generally double struck and polished? Or just the dies are polished?

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 9, 2005
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You'd have to ask PCGS that question.

    It was intentional. With Morgan dollars just about every date and mint known can be found in PL and DMPL. The coins were the result of being struck with new or almost new dies. But the dies wore quickly and only a few examples were produced from each die pair. And they were not Proof coins, they were circulation strikes.


    With Proofs, both the blank planchets and the dies are polished and yes they are struck at least twice.
     
    GDJMSP, Oct 9, 2005
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  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    BTW - I HATE ebay...

    Just a Christmas thought for ya'll

    Ruben
     
    mrbrklyn, Dec 6, 2007
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  11. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    I did. They never emailed back
     
    mrbrklyn, Oct 29, 2012
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  12. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

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    Detecto92, Oct 29, 2012
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  13. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    So why do I get this when I click on the link?

     
    hontonai, Oct 29, 2012
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  14. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    Junk grading.
     
    blu62vette, Oct 29, 2012
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  15. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for resurrecting a 5 year old thread. Very useful. :confused:
     
    brg5658, Oct 29, 2012
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  16. blu62vette

    blu62vette Member

    Without different coin numbers you could not track the number of graded DMPL/PL coins as they would be lumped into the MS category. They are more than different grades, they hold a designation.
     
    blu62vette, Oct 29, 2012
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  17. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    garbage
     
    Treashunt, Oct 29, 2012
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  18. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :devil:Trash++++++++
     
    jello, Oct 29, 2012
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