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<p>[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 9788, member: 669"]One of these is a genuine Meiji 28 (1905) Japanese ¥1 silver coin (Y#A25.2)<img src="http://forums.collectors.com/i/authorsicons/icon_smiley2.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> , the other is a cast counterfeit of a Meiji 8 (1875) coin (Y#A25.3)<img src="http://forums.collectors.com/i/authorsicons/icon_nono.gif" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> . (The mark in a circle at the left of the denomination on the genuine coin is not a chopmark. It says "Gin" = "Silver", and was added at the main mint in Osaka, to support it's circulation as a bullion coin in the Far East when the series was demonetized. The Tokyo mint put the same mark to the right of the denomination.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The extra wide rim on the fake is the first tipoff. The grainy surface, typical of a coin which has been cast rather than struck, is usually much harder to confirm in a picture, but this one is so bad that most experienced collectors/dealers would at least question it. Not apparent from the pictures are the two conclusive factors condemning the coin. It's diameter is a full 40mm, instead of the genuine 38.6mm for that year; and the weight is only 25.8g instead of the genuine 26.96.</p><p><br /></p><p>In my opinion at least 35-40% of all 19th Century and early 20th Century Japanese coins offered on EBay are either contemporary circulating counterfeits, or recent copies made for sale to tourists. Having a few known fakes around for comparison <b>can</b> be helpful.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://tinyurl.com/333yp" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://tinyurl.com/3gs7d" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> </p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://tinyurl.com/2g3th" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /><img src="http://tinyurl.com/2q4t6" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="satootoko, post: 9788, member: 669"]One of these is a genuine Meiji 28 (1905) Japanese ¥1 silver coin (Y#A25.2)[IMG]http://forums.collectors.com/i/authorsicons/icon_smiley2.gif[/IMG] , the other is a cast counterfeit of a Meiji 8 (1875) coin (Y#A25.3)[IMG]http://forums.collectors.com/i/authorsicons/icon_nono.gif[/IMG] . (The mark in a circle at the left of the denomination on the genuine coin is not a chopmark. It says "Gin" = "Silver", and was added at the main mint in Osaka, to support it's circulation as a bullion coin in the Far East when the series was demonetized. The Tokyo mint put the same mark to the right of the denomination.) The extra wide rim on the fake is the first tipoff. The grainy surface, typical of a coin which has been cast rather than struck, is usually much harder to confirm in a picture, but this one is so bad that most experienced collectors/dealers would at least question it. Not apparent from the pictures are the two conclusive factors condemning the coin. It's diameter is a full 40mm, instead of the genuine 38.6mm for that year; and the weight is only 25.8g instead of the genuine 26.96. In my opinion at least 35-40% of all 19th Century and early 20th Century Japanese coins offered on EBay are either contemporary circulating counterfeits, or recent copies made for sale to tourists. Having a few known fakes around for comparison [B]can[/B] be helpful. [IMG]http://tinyurl.com/333yp[/IMG][IMG]http://tinyurl.com/3gs7d[/IMG] [IMG]http://tinyurl.com/2g3th[/IMG][IMG]http://tinyurl.com/2q4t6[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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