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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 2781996, member: 112&quot;]Where to start with this ? The beginning I guess.</p><p><br /></p><p>Whlie I think I understand your original intent here [USER=24314]@Insider[/USER] you formatted your poll incorrectly. Your question is fine, but you needed to make your answer choices the same as those in your question. That would have allowed the poll to work correctly, and as I believe you intended it to work. It should have looked like this in other words -</p><p><br /></p><p>Spot conservation or coin doctoring?</p><p><br /></p><p>(choices)</p><p><br /></p><p>Spot conservation</p><p><br /></p><p>Coin doctoring</p><p><br /></p><p>That is what you were trying to do is it not ?</p><p><br /></p><p>The answer ? This, I believe, was your purpose in asking such a question - how exactly does one define conservation and/or coin doctoring ? Where do you draw the line ? What makes it one and what makes it the other ?So now you tell me, is that correct ?</p><p><br /></p><p>Here&#039;s two possible answers, with explanations.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>An interesting way of looking at it, and I certainly have no problem with the idea of disclosure. But it doesn&#039;t really answer the question. To me anyway, that answer means that it&#039;s only defined as coin doctoring if disclosure is not given at sale. Well, what about if there is no sale ? And yeah I know, you said - their call. But no distinction is made as to how that call should be made or how what was done to the coin is defined. And that is the basic question here - I believe.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>This is a pretty good answer, and again I think I understand its intent correctly. However, I would ask a question, how can conservation ever not be an attempt to enhance a coin&#039;s appearance ? To me, I don&#039;t think it can, that&#039;s what conservation is - an attempt to enhance a coin&#039;s appearance. And yes, conservation can also have a 2nd reason, that being to prevent further or additional damage, but that doesn&#039;t mean the 1st doesn&#039;t also exist. So I don&#039;t think that can ever be part of the definition, or the defining difference between the two things - coin doctoring and conservation.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now granted, there is no intent to deceive or falsify anything in conservation, or cleaning a coin - and yeah I call a spade a spade.</p><p><br /></p><p>For me, deception, coupled with intent, is the defining difference between conservation and coin doctoring. And that&#039;s really all you have to say.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thus, what was done to that coin is in no way coin doctoring.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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