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<p>[QUOTE="Stork, post: 2781877, member: 71642"]Hey, am I a VIP now that I'm getting screenshot-ed????</p><p><br /></p><p>Seriously, this poll is a problem as [USER=69089]@Maxfli[/USER] says. You can't answer the question as 'yes' or 'no'.</p><p><br /></p><p>To expand on my screenshot comment (as I've made similar before)--in my mind CONSERVATION is something done to protect from damage/stop further damage. Think acetone etc baths to remove PVC or get rid of a contaminant that may cause harm or further harm. No intent to deceive, and no attempt to enhance or artificially change a coin's appearance (other than to get rid of the contaminant).</p><p><br /></p><p>COIN DOCTORING are actively taken steps done in order to change a coin's appearance--things like plugging, puttying, tooling, adding toning. Altering the coin to enhance appearance/hide problems for purposes of deceit (ie profit motive). Falsifying a coin's appearance.</p><p><br /></p><p>Or, perhaps think of it this way (to use the doctor analogy more)...</p><p><br /></p><p>Washing ones face = conservation</p><p>beauty spas and prescription meds = dipping level of activity (micro level stuff)</p><p>plastic surgery = coin doctoring</p><p><br /></p><p>Washing your face is normal hygiene and preventative measures.</p><p><br /></p><p>Plastic surgery can change a person from fugly to beautimous, but the children aren't going to inherit that nose job.</p><p><br /></p><p>Having a peel or using accutaine or retin-A might make for a more pleasing look.</p><p><br /></p><p>I do think a problem arises when conservation services may actually be getting a bit in to the chemical processing/spa treatment (ie carbon spot removal) activity.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't think a simple wash or flicking off of debris that won't cause harm or further changes means much.</p><p><br /></p><p>Once you get to dipping or beyond, that is information a buyer should know. Someone might not mind the coin was dipped, or a hole plugged...AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED BUYING DECISION. Of course the common statement re: dipping is that if it's done properly no one will know, and the current owner might not know about it either.</p><p><br /></p><p>edited to add: so in answer to what I THINK the question is, no I don't think that flicking off crud is doctoring, and yes this appears to me (from this limited information) to be simple conservation. I don't get the reference to dippers 'r us or whatever so I'm probably missing part of the story (and I haven't read the full thread elsewhere).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Stork, post: 2781877, member: 71642"]Hey, am I a VIP now that I'm getting screenshot-ed???? Seriously, this poll is a problem as [USER=69089]@Maxfli[/USER] says. You can't answer the question as 'yes' or 'no'. To expand on my screenshot comment (as I've made similar before)--in my mind CONSERVATION is something done to protect from damage/stop further damage. Think acetone etc baths to remove PVC or get rid of a contaminant that may cause harm or further harm. No intent to deceive, and no attempt to enhance or artificially change a coin's appearance (other than to get rid of the contaminant). COIN DOCTORING are actively taken steps done in order to change a coin's appearance--things like plugging, puttying, tooling, adding toning. Altering the coin to enhance appearance/hide problems for purposes of deceit (ie profit motive). Falsifying a coin's appearance. Or, perhaps think of it this way (to use the doctor analogy more)... Washing ones face = conservation beauty spas and prescription meds = dipping level of activity (micro level stuff) plastic surgery = coin doctoring Washing your face is normal hygiene and preventative measures. Plastic surgery can change a person from fugly to beautimous, but the children aren't going to inherit that nose job. Having a peel or using accutaine or retin-A might make for a more pleasing look. I do think a problem arises when conservation services may actually be getting a bit in to the chemical processing/spa treatment (ie carbon spot removal) activity. I don't think a simple wash or flicking off of debris that won't cause harm or further changes means much. Once you get to dipping or beyond, that is information a buyer should know. Someone might not mind the coin was dipped, or a hole plugged...AS LONG AS THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE AN INFORMED BUYING DECISION. Of course the common statement re: dipping is that if it's done properly no one will know, and the current owner might not know about it either. edited to add: so in answer to what I THINK the question is, no I don't think that flicking off crud is doctoring, and yes this appears to me (from this limited information) to be simple conservation. I don't get the reference to dippers 'r us or whatever so I'm probably missing part of the story (and I haven't read the full thread elsewhere).[/QUOTE]
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