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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1801976, member: 112&quot;]No I did not know that, it was new information for me.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, you couldn&#039;t, not unintentionally any way. The only way you can produce a Proof with cameo devices is if you intentionally frost the devices. On older coins that frost was produced by one of two methods. The devices of the dies were either sandblasted or treated with acid, depending on the specific time period you are talking about. And rather obviously both of these methods result in a rough surface and not a smooth, polished surface.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As I explained above, that is exactly what happens naturally to Proof dies, all by itself due to die wear. And as I said this process continued until 1973. It was not until 1973 that the mint stopped allowing that to happen. The mint intentionally changed their policy and stopped using Proof dies as soon as they became worn enough to not produce a Proof coin with cameo devices. When the dies did become that worn they were replaced with new fresh dies so that all of the coins would be cameo.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;ve explained it as well as I can and like I said, the best evidence we have are the coins themselves. And when the coins contradict written material, well there it is right in front of you. It is up to each person to draw their own conclusions based on the evidence.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for asking him, I invited and asked Mr. Bowers to become a member of this forum several years ago. He declined. But it&#039;s a pretty simple matter to send him an email (his address is pretty well known - but don&#039;t anybody post it here !) and ask him questions yourself. He&#039;s always responded to me when I did.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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