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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2472244, member: 19463"]<span style="color: #ff0000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000">"I'll bet you'll get more fun out of a used high quality Nikon or B&L scope than adding another coin to your collection."</span></p><p>Without the needless overtones, I certainly agree with this one. There is no need for a high quality scope to see and enjoy. What is needed is a stereo microscope of the quality sold on eBay for relatively low prices. Mono (2D) scopes including those with binocular eyepieces are much less useful and much less fun usually being too powerful to give a good overview of the clues to be seen.</p><p><br /></p><p>There is nothing wrong with dealers providing a submission service to NGC and nothing wrong with such dealers telling their customers that it is their opinion that a coin is likely to come back as a fake. What is wrong is if that dealer is looking at the coin and providing an opinion that the coin is certified in any way by NGC. A dealer who mails off coins to NGC could be as expert as Mssrs. Vagi and Murphy but that dealer's opinions are in no way NGC. If he is suggesting that he speaks for NGC, I would like to see how NGC feels about that representation. I suspect there are a thousand people out there whose authenticity opinions would agree with those of NGC on 99% of coins they see (grading agreement would be less). They must limit themselves to offering their opinions in their own name without insinuations that they are more than just that.</p><p><br /></p><p>Please be aware of a wonderful feature of Coin Talk software. If you click on a member's name the box that appears includes an option to Ignore. Selecting this will remove posts from that person from your future displays. I encourage those of you who find me or someone else posting here offensive to make use of this feature.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2472244, member: 19463"][COLOR=#ff0000] "I'll bet you'll get more fun out of a used high quality Nikon or B&L scope than adding another coin to your collection."[/COLOR] Without the needless overtones, I certainly agree with this one. There is no need for a high quality scope to see and enjoy. What is needed is a stereo microscope of the quality sold on eBay for relatively low prices. Mono (2D) scopes including those with binocular eyepieces are much less useful and much less fun usually being too powerful to give a good overview of the clues to be seen. There is nothing wrong with dealers providing a submission service to NGC and nothing wrong with such dealers telling their customers that it is their opinion that a coin is likely to come back as a fake. What is wrong is if that dealer is looking at the coin and providing an opinion that the coin is certified in any way by NGC. A dealer who mails off coins to NGC could be as expert as Mssrs. Vagi and Murphy but that dealer's opinions are in no way NGC. If he is suggesting that he speaks for NGC, I would like to see how NGC feels about that representation. I suspect there are a thousand people out there whose authenticity opinions would agree with those of NGC on 99% of coins they see (grading agreement would be less). They must limit themselves to offering their opinions in their own name without insinuations that they are more than just that. Please be aware of a wonderful feature of Coin Talk software. If you click on a member's name the box that appears includes an option to Ignore. Selecting this will remove posts from that person from your future displays. I encourage those of you who find me or someone else posting here offensive to make use of this feature.[/QUOTE]
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