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<p>[QUOTE="tjenkins_1983, post: 242503, member: 8167"]At a recent coin club meeting, a gentleman brought in two fake $20 gold pieces and a fake $5 Indian. He is a jeweler and after he was done passing them around, he explained that they were all three made of real gold, but they were not genuine coins. You could tell the weight was a little different than the real ones he brought with him so we could compare. He said he frequently comes across fakes from people who bought them under the assumption that they were real. He tries to make their day by buying them for melt value, which usually works. I just thought it was kind of cool. </p><p>Also, I have a fake 1889 P Morgan that belonged to a family friend. When I explained it to her, she asked how I could tell. I took out one of my circulated Morgans and showed her how the weight was different, the wear was uneven, and even the reeded edge looked like it was simply carved by hand. Then, I did the flip test where I flipped mine so you could hear the ring in mid-air. Then, I flipped hers so she could hear the flat *clank* it gave. I'm guessing it was some kind of iron or alloy because of the corrosion. </p><p>It just makes me sad to think that there are so many fakes out there. What's worse is that they're getting harder to spot. Most are still pretty obvious. I would like to take a class on them. </p><p><br /></p><p>By the way, what is the term where someone takes and original coin and casts a die from it? The result is usually a very weak or uneven strike of a fake. I'm sure that's what happened with the 1889 Morgan, but I couldn't think of the term and neither could anyone else at the meeting. It's driving me nuts.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="tjenkins_1983, post: 242503, member: 8167"]At a recent coin club meeting, a gentleman brought in two fake $20 gold pieces and a fake $5 Indian. He is a jeweler and after he was done passing them around, he explained that they were all three made of real gold, but they were not genuine coins. You could tell the weight was a little different than the real ones he brought with him so we could compare. He said he frequently comes across fakes from people who bought them under the assumption that they were real. He tries to make their day by buying them for melt value, which usually works. I just thought it was kind of cool. Also, I have a fake 1889 P Morgan that belonged to a family friend. When I explained it to her, she asked how I could tell. I took out one of my circulated Morgans and showed her how the weight was different, the wear was uneven, and even the reeded edge looked like it was simply carved by hand. Then, I did the flip test where I flipped mine so you could hear the ring in mid-air. Then, I flipped hers so she could hear the flat *clank* it gave. I'm guessing it was some kind of iron or alloy because of the corrosion. It just makes me sad to think that there are so many fakes out there. What's worse is that they're getting harder to spot. Most are still pretty obvious. I would like to take a class on them. By the way, what is the term where someone takes and original coin and casts a die from it? The result is usually a very weak or uneven strike of a fake. I'm sure that's what happened with the 1889 Morgan, but I couldn't think of the term and neither could anyone else at the meeting. It's driving me nuts.[/QUOTE]
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