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Message:: [QUOTE="realeswatcher, post: 24657200, member: 148396"]The piece Mark posted is Mexico, 1712-14 style. It sold via auction the other day on eBay; it appears someone gave him a reasonable guess attribution of 1715 Fleet (which couldn't be stated with certainty, but definitely "most" pieces of these years are from those wrecks - though less so as the years go by and pieces from those years surface from other sources around the globe). What I would say, though... the authenticity is questionable, and I would lean towards a cast of a salvage piece from afar. Edges have the look, not right porosity... And, while the central detail is rather deeply impressed on both sides (though the actual design elements are mushy)... the detail cuts off very abruptly, despite the planchet not appearing to be all that "unlevel", faceted, whatever word you'd like to use (which is typically what causes an area on a cob to go unstruck). That's often a trait of a cast piece. So, wouldn't say definitively, but highly suspect to this experienced eye. ----- Bardolph's piece, while the wrong attribution, is a very nice (wholesome, genuine) piece... a scarce peninsular Philip V cob 8R, Madrid mint. People often confuse those in the opposite direction (i.e., calling Bardolph's type as Mexico) since most Bourbon shield cobs are in fact Mexico 1702-1733.[/QUOTE]