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<p>[QUOTE="BigTee44, post: 3207895, member: 41883"]So I get that CAC checks the grading companies to make sure they're not over grading their coins.... but even NGC and PCGS's standards are different from one another.</p><p><br /></p><p>So according to their website, </p><p> </p><p>All quoted directly from <a href="http://www.caccoin.com" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.caccoin.com" rel="nofollow">www.caccoin.com</a></p><p><br /></p><p><b>"SETTING THE STANDARD FOR QUALITY.</b></p><p><br /></p><p><b>A LITTLE STICKER MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Within each number of the coin grading scale is a small range of condition from low-end to high-end. Certified coins of the same grade can be of varying quality. Many of today’s collectors want coins that are solid or premium quality for their assigned grade. CAC holds coins to a higher standard so you can be confident in the value of yours. We verify previously graded coins … and award our sticker only to those coins that meet the standard for today’s selective buyer.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>WHAT THE CAC STICKER MEANS:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>• Verified. Your coin has been verified as meeting the standard for strict quality within its grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>• Guaranteed. CAC stands behind our verification by making markets in most actively traded coins.</p><p><br /></p><p><b>THE CAC STICKER IS BACKED BY EXPERIENCE.</b></p><p><br /></p><p>CAC was founded by leading members of the numismatic community, including John Albanese, a respected authority on coin grading and the rare coin market."</p><p><br /></p><p>********************************</p><p><br /></p><p>I want all of my coins to have the CAC sticker because I like to think the coins I submit are PQ and have nice eye appeal. I hope to one day actually get a GOLD bean on one of my coins...</p><p><br /></p><p>BUUUUUUUT </p><p><br /></p><p>if you buy into the entire CAC you would think that any coin sent to them that doesn't sticker is over graded and shouldn't be bought. Yet, personally I've sent in 2 coins that I thought were locks for GOLD beans that didn't even get a green sticker. A 1853 Seated Half and a 1838(sm stars but NGC calls it large stars because it's not a late enough die<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) Half Dime were both sent to CAC which were both returned as rejects. The 1853 went in for reconsideration at NGC and the 1838 Half Dime cross over to NGC, both coins upgraded by one grade. </p><p><br /></p><p>What was sent to CAC and failed</p><p>[ATTACH=full]832086[/ATTACH] </p><p>[ATTACH=full]832085[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>I was tempted to send them to CAC to see if they would sticker at their new grades but decided against it. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I don't send many things to CAC but the ones I do I think are PQ for their grade and have excellent eye appeal. I did a 3 person group sub and the results were posted last week. I personally went 3/5 but the other coins went 0/5.... one of which I also thought had a shot at a gold. </p><p><br /></p><p>I didn't photograph the other coins that I sent in as I was waiting to shoot them with their stickers, but we see how that went. I'll add them up on here when I get them back hopefully in the next day or two. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is my 3/5 from CAC</p><p><br /></p><p>PASSED</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC PF66BN </p><p>[ATTACH=full]832074[/ATTACH] </p><p>NGC MS66</p><p>[ATTACH=full]832076[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]832077[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>Did Not Pass</p><p>[ATTACH=full]832078[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]832079[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So does anyone actually know what the true standards are for CAC? I'm just trying to figure out what the standards are so I know what I should or shouldn't send them. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm 1/7 on Seated halves.... so I don't send those in anymore....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BigTee44, post: 3207895, member: 41883"]So I get that CAC checks the grading companies to make sure they're not over grading their coins.... but even NGC and PCGS's standards are different from one another. So according to their website, All quoted directly from [url="http://www.caccoin.com"]www.caccoin.com[/url] [B]"SETTING THE STANDARD FOR QUALITY.[/B] [B]A LITTLE STICKER MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE.[/B] Within each number of the coin grading scale is a small range of condition from low-end to high-end. Certified coins of the same grade can be of varying quality. Many of today’s collectors want coins that are solid or premium quality for their assigned grade. CAC holds coins to a higher standard so you can be confident in the value of yours. We verify previously graded coins … and award our sticker only to those coins that meet the standard for today’s selective buyer. [B]WHAT THE CAC STICKER MEANS:[/B] • Verified. Your coin has been verified as meeting the standard for strict quality within its grade. • Guaranteed. CAC stands behind our verification by making markets in most actively traded coins. [B]THE CAC STICKER IS BACKED BY EXPERIENCE.[/B] CAC was founded by leading members of the numismatic community, including John Albanese, a respected authority on coin grading and the rare coin market." ******************************** I want all of my coins to have the CAC sticker because I like to think the coins I submit are PQ and have nice eye appeal. I hope to one day actually get a GOLD bean on one of my coins... BUUUUUUUT if you buy into the entire CAC you would think that any coin sent to them that doesn't sticker is over graded and shouldn't be bought. Yet, personally I've sent in 2 coins that I thought were locks for GOLD beans that didn't even get a green sticker. A 1853 Seated Half and a 1838(sm stars but NGC calls it large stars because it's not a late enough die:banghead::banghead:) Half Dime were both sent to CAC which were both returned as rejects. The 1853 went in for reconsideration at NGC and the 1838 Half Dime cross over to NGC, both coins upgraded by one grade. What was sent to CAC and failed [ATTACH=full]832086[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]832085[/ATTACH] I was tempted to send them to CAC to see if they would sticker at their new grades but decided against it. I don't send many things to CAC but the ones I do I think are PQ for their grade and have excellent eye appeal. I did a 3 person group sub and the results were posted last week. I personally went 3/5 but the other coins went 0/5.... one of which I also thought had a shot at a gold. I didn't photograph the other coins that I sent in as I was waiting to shoot them with their stickers, but we see how that went. I'll add them up on here when I get them back hopefully in the next day or two. Here is my 3/5 from CAC PASSED NGC PF66BN [ATTACH=full]832074[/ATTACH] NGC MS66 [ATTACH=full]832076[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]832077[/ATTACH] Did Not Pass [ATTACH=full]832078[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]832079[/ATTACH] So does anyone actually know what the true standards are for CAC? I'm just trying to figure out what the standards are so I know what I should or shouldn't send them. I'm 1/7 on Seated halves.... so I don't send those in anymore....[/QUOTE]
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