Someone took the time and moneys

Tyler, those people who have a big collection are relatively older people than you (I saw now, from your profile, you are a young one.) Do you think that they are happy now about their big collection? My guess, most of them are already regretful for spending their time and money for those big collections.

Of course, it is not totally worthless to collect damaged coins, etc. however, if you are also interested in "what is happening in the mint, what tech is being used there, what is causing those damages, etc" like a mechanical/metalurgical/etc engineer/technician/etc. whose aim is to learn from errors/mistakes and to improve the techniques. Otherwise, if you are just after the rarity like many collectors are after, a damaged, say, a blind horse too is rare, but, not worth at all.

As for the Penny with P mint mark; that "P" comes from "P"hiladelphia mint, doesn't it? If I were an employee there who spent a life by working there, that "P" would be meaningful for me. Since I'm not, "P" mint mark on that penny coin does not make me get interested in it and, except collectors, the people won't be interested in learning it, either.

However, whether they are collectors or non-collectors, any person around you will be interested in the money, specifically in the penny you have, but, they'll be interested in only when they own one, in their pockets. So, with 150 penny you already have, you have a chance to make 150 new friends and to make bad friends good friends. That is an incomparable valuable thing. You have already got "one lazy mans trash" ("tommyc03's") and to make it a treasure is your work. Good work.

 

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Don't know what you are trying to say by this man... Honestly I'm not after rarity, I just like coins. I'm not after calling tommyc03 lazy or calling his coins trash, you just said that it's worthless to keep them (and in my minds eye it made me think you were calling it the trash, and I was calling it treasure) and I don't entirely think it's worthless, but you can keep thinking that if that is what makes you feel better. I have been collecting wheat pennies and foreign coins since I was like 11, and I just like them. Recently as of a year ago, I noticed that errors exist. That prompted me to learn about the minting process, and that there was value in those coins, and had been collecting them not knowing that. I just like different things. (Yea the rarity is nice, but as you know they are rare so how could rarity be a driving aspect if I have not found anything rare?) I don't know if this is meaning to offend me or what, but you can't go calling one of my friends lazy when he did a nice thing. Don't know what your purpose to this is, or what you are saying by this, but if my worthless pennies are worthless then why would I send them to other people if you think they are worthless, and call someone lazy for sending them to me? I never judged you so I appreciate that you don't judge me or my friends for doing a nice thing. Most of my coins I have attained for free/ or for face value.. And with that I end this conversation. Sigh. Why can't people let other people live the way they want?

 

If you want a 2017 p penny I can send you one..?

 

Tyler, it would be a good time for you to embrace the fact that English is likely not your respondent's first language....

 

SuperDave, is there any English mistake in my these words?

I don't think so. And, Tyler didn't misunderstand. Yes, I said it "one lazy man's trash", intentionally, knowingly, by being aware of what I said. (However, taking it as offensive or not is another issue.)

Lets put this fact straight. If those 2017 penny coins were not a "trash", if they were a "treasure", "tommyc03" would still send them to Tyler? No. And, just because those coins are transferred to Tyler, did they become a "treasure" suddenly? No. And, I haven't said "Tyler too is a lazy one" yet because he just got them a day ago or two. That "one mans trash is another mans treasure" said by Tyler himself is an incomplete saying. A trash can not turn into a treasure suddenly when it goes from one hand to another hand. Without any "work", nothing gains any value. (I guess, Tyler too knows this well as I guess he too works.)

I'd like to have one penny from you Tyler and would always keep it in my pocket. However, people in your neck of the woods are the first.

Ps: Late here in the night, good evening there.

 

Send me your address in pm if you like? I still think it's treasure because of the time it took and money it took for him to send it. It was the thought that counted into treasure. Sorry for taking you out of context, lazy to me means that the person doesn't take the time or effort to do anything. The lack of willingness. When I saw that I was like uhhhh no he not lazy, he a very nice individual who helps a lot of people here when he can. He has shown more effort than I ever have to be honest because I haven't given away anything to be honest. To me, that's not lazy. But whatever you meant by it, I won't take offense to it anymore and I apologize for taking it that way. And thanks for the conversation and taking the time to write that.

 

Tyler, nothing to apologize. Your reaction to that I called him lazy is normal in the conventional description of lazyness. In my life, I've worked for more than 40 years, in various positions from hard works to soft works such as as a farm worker, as a researcher in academies, as an engineer in industry, as a straight worker in building construction, etc etc. After 40 years, I realized I was still a lazy one. Laziness here is about the incompleteness. It is something like this. You spend much effort to repair an equipment all day, but, you don't do a simple thing, for example, you don't add a missing small collar between a bolt and screw, the equipment doesn't work properly because of that missing small collar as you are too lazy to get it and to mount it to the equipment assembly even if you work hard all day to repair it. This analogy may not be good enough, however, you probably understood what I meant by "lazy", "incompleteness"... (This is not only about "tommyc03" who I don't know at all, but also about everybody. Anyway, not to go off-topic more here, I may talk about such things also in "coin with/out numerals" thread. There, also, about "P" point, P mint mark on 2017 P penny. It is good to see that "P" is important, more important than anything on that coin as "P" there tells about "the work", their efforts of people in the mint. However, those hard workers there too should "complete" the work, or, they too are too lazy...)

Ps: When/If I ever be to the US I may ask for you to give me a one "P" coin, so, keep one for me as a reservation. However, as I said, people in your own area are the first for you. Well, you can send one "P" coin to that "lazy" math prof at the university there in the US? You don't need to ask him before sending it. His work address is given on his webpage. In the envelope you will enclose one "P" coin, you can write this "Erol at CoinTalk asked me to send this to you."

 

Cool beans. There are indeed many kind and generous people around these parts.
Even when I'm going through a short phase of disinterest with numismatics (such phases don't last long) I always continue to frequent this site because I've come to see it as more of a community than a forum.
Very generous of both members. Though I must say living on the east coast I'm already sick of the new cents, we're flooded with them. I want a Wheatie in my change

 

Nice! I haven't seen a single 2017 P here in Oregon - and it's September.

 

OMG...this is just too funny. I'm actually having a good laugh at Erol's posts. "A Funny Thing Happened On the Way To The Forum"... @ErolGarip You need to watch a movie that was made here called "Pay It Forward" and you would understand better why people do what they do and why they should do more. As a senior citizen I have come to realize that I might not have paid it forward as much as I could have in the past. Tyler needed these coins so I gave them to him because I had extras. And I know that at some point he will likely pay it forward to someone in need of something. By the way, I started working on a farm when I was just 10 years old shoveling cow poop to earn 50 cents a day. That put me in the work force for 45 years until I retired as a manager of a dept. in a fortune 500 company...lazy???. And never once have I ever regretted spending what I did on my collection. @Tyler Graton Some people need some serious therapy if you know what I mean. LOL. Glad you got them, glad you like them and pleased that I could help you out.

 

Ok then. If they were extra, I admit now, it was my mistake of wrong guess.
However, this isn't a guess, Tyler has 150 P penny coins now.

 

You are right my friend!! As soon as I can find a job to be able to pay it forward, I will do so. I have already made note of the people asking for those coins, and saying they haven't seen any 2017 p pennies and will gladly send a few nice ones to them. I do agree with you though, pay it forward is a good movie for him to watch! Everyone has room to be lazy, even machines can't do all the work. Lazy means you are human. If you have no time for laziness, when will you sleep? Glad you got a kick out of that haha I sure was very confused and I felt my brain swelling to the point of laziness trying to grasp this subject at hand haha. It's okay though. I'm lazy, you are lazy, we are all lazy at one point of the day. Make sure you don't give someone something because you might be lazy if you don't give a million dollar coin to me. How dare you be lazy @tommyc03 and not send me something better. How dare you. Lol

 

Here, "him" must be "me". Sorry, I've not watched any movie for decades, and, I won't watch, on tv, even on the net. However, to understand what people are talking about, I read short storylines of the movies people mention here. I found this storyline about the movie "Pay it forward":

"Storyline...
Young Trevor McKinney, troubled by his mother's alcoholism and fears of his abusive but absent father, is caught up by an intriguing assignment from his new social studies teacher, Mr. Simonet. The assignment: think of something to change the world and put it into action. Trevor conjures the notion of paying a favor not back, but forward--repaying good deeds not with payback, but with new good deeds done to three new people. Trevor's efforts to make good on his idea bring a revolution not only in the lives of himself, his mother and his physically and emotionally scarred teacher, but in those of an ever-widening circle of people completely unknown to him... "

So, mr "Trevor", when I ready your these words:

I fall into a doubt. No no, you are not young Trevor, you are old "Smonet" who was also a physically scarred teacher, who could not walk, but, could teach Trevor to change the world and could send Trevor to the work. So, who is the next Trevor? (Tyler, I see you are jobless now. Lazy lazy walk is a good walk... And, a good work... Ps: late in the night here, i'll sleep, yes, lazy lazy sleep. Pity you, still evening there. Ok, have fun, good evening and night.)

 

.... *shakes head* I'm done haha You win! Congrats!!

 

Dude that was heartless what you said.

 

This is kind of what it reminds me of.

 

Laziness- The quality of being unable to work or use energy, idleness

I assume Erols first language may not be English, maybe laziness is used in a different context in his neck of the woods. But, to most people it is considered at the very least a degrading insult. If someone is indeed lazy and you know so for a fact then you have every right to say so, but to prance around this thread taking jabs at a well respected member of this forum, who sounds like the exact opposite of lazy hearing of his background and his good deed (which Tyler was attempting to give him credit for) is pretty low in my humble opinion.

Usually I'll let these kinds of things go, but this time I felt compelled to speak up. Good on you Tommy for helping a fellow coin enthusiast enhance his collection.

I too collect cents, I guess that makes us the peons of the numismatic world, but hey, not everyone can afford gold. Don't tread on us.

 

This is ugly? He is more beautiful than my dentist. Anyway, all dentists are uglies, you know. Today, I wasn't lazy at all, I sent myself from pc desk chair by courier mail to his dentist chair in his clinic. He was the same ugly. However, when he got this in my hand



and when he put it into his pocket, those hard tools in his hands, needles or whatever they are, melted, his hard hand softened, and he became beautiful. Sure, he can not compete in the beauty contest with his assistant young lady who too got a one coin and her full white teeth appeared before their operation in my mouth. Anyway, all went fine, was a careful operation, after the one coins were placed into their pockets.

Ps: Tyler, who are these newcomers, "Charlietig" and "Mad Stax"? Are they next "Trevors"? Maybe, you have a team of "Trevors". May I too join your team please. I don't have a gold coin to finance the team, but, I have goldish one coins as many as you have.

 

Oh my apologies Erol, I wasn't aware I was intruding. I thought this was an open forum.

I'm not part of some imaginary team, I just feel it is ignorant to label someone you've never even met as 'lazy', and hijack someones thread whilst belittling another person's good deed.

Clearly the OP posted this thread because he enjoys the hobby and wanted to show appreciation to the members who took the time out of their days (the exact opposite of laziness) to enhance OPs collection.

I've been on the receiving end of numismatic gifts from members of this forum, received anything from zinc cents to silver. Some coins I like more than others, but it's not so much the coin as it is the effort put in by the member who sent them that is most appreciated.

Then once the giftee has built up a collection over the years he/she feels compelled to "pay it forward" to another young collector like they once were, in large part borne out of gratitude to collectors who did the same for them years before.

I guess some see it that way and some don't.

 

Mads, you probably already saw there is a new thread here
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/potential-future-value-of-2017-p-penny-bank-rolls.303136/
that I just hijacked to here. (Some comments there are highly interesting and relevant to this thread.)