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<p>[QUOTE="dayriser, post: 881523, member: 21610"]I don't use the oil rig story lightly... It was very pertinent to the discussion... Whoever was responsible for the safety and soundness of those rigs has committed a great wrong... It is a terrible thing that so many will suffer for the bad decisions of a small group of men, likely because of greed... When we speak of something being wrong on principle, we still need to allow room for the fact that some things, while wrong, can be overlooked... I just think there was a significant overreaction to the use of a mediocre picture of a common coin without permission... Other wrongs, like the oil rig disaster, MUST be corrected.... Someone MUST be called to account for the lives and livelihoods lost... </p><p> </p><p>And I didn't miss your point at all... But keep in mind, there is no mention on the entire first page of posts that the seller even claimed it was the coin to be received and yet on the first page there is a post of "That is definitely false advertising!" which at that point was unproven or even unmentioned... It all just reeked of emotional over-reaction... Just finding something to be fussing about... </p><p> </p><p>As to your point though, if I bid on a coin and the value of the coin was largely based on the condition of the coin, I would want to depend on the picture of the coin and thereby would certainly ask if it was the actual coin to be received... If I received a coin that varied from the picture after being assured otherwise, that would be fraud, and I would be mildly annoyed, or maybe even upset... But if I am out scouting around looking for cents to pick up for under a buck and a guy is showing me a pic of an ef 1970-s lincoln AT BEST, I am not particularly concerned if the one I get is the one in the pic, since they are both worthless... Using a little common sense, we have to ask, what is a guys motive for listing the picture of an EF coin instead of the one he has?... Really... I mean, he is still going to send you a 1970-s presumably, and it likely would be near in condition to the one in the picture... If he slips you an AG coin instead, he will make a hefty profit off his scam somewhere in the neighborhood of a nickel... Do we really think he was scamming? Really? If the guy is trying to fraudulently sell coins he doesn't own, why wouldn't he just use MS-66 examples from this very same forum.... The guy is not a crook, he is just not well equipped for selling on Ebay... </p><p> </p><p>IMO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dayriser, post: 881523, member: 21610"]I don't use the oil rig story lightly... It was very pertinent to the discussion... Whoever was responsible for the safety and soundness of those rigs has committed a great wrong... It is a terrible thing that so many will suffer for the bad decisions of a small group of men, likely because of greed... When we speak of something being wrong on principle, we still need to allow room for the fact that some things, while wrong, can be overlooked... I just think there was a significant overreaction to the use of a mediocre picture of a common coin without permission... Other wrongs, like the oil rig disaster, MUST be corrected.... Someone MUST be called to account for the lives and livelihoods lost... And I didn't miss your point at all... But keep in mind, there is no mention on the entire first page of posts that the seller even claimed it was the coin to be received and yet on the first page there is a post of "That is definitely false advertising!" which at that point was unproven or even unmentioned... It all just reeked of emotional over-reaction... Just finding something to be fussing about... As to your point though, if I bid on a coin and the value of the coin was largely based on the condition of the coin, I would want to depend on the picture of the coin and thereby would certainly ask if it was the actual coin to be received... If I received a coin that varied from the picture after being assured otherwise, that would be fraud, and I would be mildly annoyed, or maybe even upset... But if I am out scouting around looking for cents to pick up for under a buck and a guy is showing me a pic of an ef 1970-s lincoln AT BEST, I am not particularly concerned if the one I get is the one in the pic, since they are both worthless... Using a little common sense, we have to ask, what is a guys motive for listing the picture of an EF coin instead of the one he has?... Really... I mean, he is still going to send you a 1970-s presumably, and it likely would be near in condition to the one in the picture... If he slips you an AG coin instead, he will make a hefty profit off his scam somewhere in the neighborhood of a nickel... Do we really think he was scamming? Really? If the guy is trying to fraudulently sell coins he doesn't own, why wouldn't he just use MS-66 examples from this very same forum.... The guy is not a crook, he is just not well equipped for selling on Ebay... IMO[/QUOTE]
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