Some RPD help on recent IH purchase

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  1. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    I picked up a good lot of IHP's today and have two RPD's that I can't seem to locate in the CPG or in the Snow guide. Admittedly I'm not very good at navigating through the Snow / variety site. Any help is appreciated. Below are quick pic's of an 1895 where the flag on the 5 is prepunched fairly dramatically. The picture isn't great but in hand it's really nice. Second one pictured is an 1899 with the first 9 doubled (inside the top loop). I couldn't locate either of these. Any help is appreciated. I've also included a close up of the diamonds on another non-RPD's IH I bought. Just love the condition and for $1 each I can't not buy them.

    Thanks for looking.

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  3. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Supporter! Supporter

    Nice pick-ups. Do you know if there's a good website that covers Indian Head Cents?
     
  4. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    The 1895 looks to be the S3
    Can't find a match for the 1899.
     
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  5. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    Thank you Mr Hair (or Ms Hair?). S-3 is exactly it. When I looked on my laptop last night I couldn’t find a matching photo but it pops right up on my phone.

    I appreciate the help.
     
  6. frech001

    frech001 New but Old

  7. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    The best I can do is S-25 for the 1899.
     
  8. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Drawing a blank on the 1899 using Rick Snow's latest book. I'd want to dig the crud on the digits out and see if it's S15. I can't find any others that have repunching on the top inside of the 1st 9. S25 has repunching at the bottom inside of the upper loop of the 1st 9.
     
  9. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    Here are Dave Poliquins' diagnostics for the 1895. http://www.indiancentvarieties.com/1895_variety003.html

    I think the 99 is a S-25. Rick Snow's attribution guide has no photo, only has a description of the S-25 and Poliquin does not have a plate coin for the variety so he has not done an attribution. The 1899 S-15 has a rather wide faint repunching to the east of the lower loop in the 8.

    Both dates varieties are listed by Snow as scarce.
     
  10. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    His latest version has a photo of S25. Date position is different from that of the subject coin. Time to dig out a rose thorn and de-crud the date under a microscope. Is there also repunching evident below the lower loop of the 2nd 9?
     
  11. Hoky77

    Hoky77 Well-Known Member

    I agree, get the crud off and see what all is there. If that is repunching under the second 9 I think it may be a discovery coin.
     
  12. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    Thanks everyone. Let me get the date cleaned up and I’ll repost some photos.
     
  13. thomas mozzillo

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  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    Looks like what I was thinking was repunching at the top inside of the first 9 came off with the rose thorn.
     
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  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Looked like repunching to me as well.
     
  17. frech001

    frech001 New but Old

  18. Publius2

    Publius2 Well-Known Member

    Still hard to tell. I arrowed what I think are the signs of RPD. The only one I feel pretty confident about is the inside the lower loop of the second 9 and inside the upper loop of the 8.

    IHC 8.JPG IHC First 9.JPG IHC Second 9.JPG
     
  19. Joe Campbell

    Joe Campbell Well-Known Member

    Are there any smart ways to get that gunk out of the Numerals without scratching the coin?
     
  20. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Moisten a toothpick in acetone or distilled water and pick away at it a little and see if it will loosen.
     
  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I agree, BTW, you got RPDs, there. Good eye!
     
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