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<p>[QUOTE="silentnviolent, post: 2000269, member: 8797"]agreed. To stay on topic, the problem really lies in asking for a 'best price.' It is a tactless and lazy method of negotiation best used when the deck is stacked in your favor as in the example given of that employed by Hardcore Pawn. When a person comes in selling their only items of value because they are in a bind for cash it is expected for pawn guys to act this way in their own store.</p><p> </p><p>If you are, as you say, on an even playing field with the coin dealer in the market place then neither is superior to the other either.</p><p> </p><p>if a coin is not priced, throw out your personal offer first and do the dance..... Ask what he needs for it, then assess it in front of him, with a counter offer.</p><p> </p><p>Skipping the art of negotiation by leading with "what's your best price" IS insulting. I'm no coin dealer either. If you can demonstrate some knowledge to be that I may learn something I didn't before would be worth a discounted price. If you show that you REALLY love it, you may sway the price by the end of a show.</p><p> </p><p>But....</p><p>If you cannot extend the courtesy of justification to the dealer for himself to take a loss, why should he take one? After all, there is something to be said for the ability to inspect in hand prior to purchase, vs waiting for delivery and or those 'unfortunate circumstances' that arise with packages in transit, the hassle and added cost of shipping returns, the time tied up and possible hassle of or wait for a refund....</p><p> </p><p>All I say is, leading with "what's your best price" says to me: "Neither you as a person, nor this transaction is important enough to me to warrant my full attention for very long."</p><p> </p><p>So I can understand the response to that being "Neither is your business with me." Because as a buyer, I realize that I have all the time in the world to find what I'm looking for. Just the same way that as a coin dealer or any other owner of any other thing, I can pick and choose who I sell it to AND for which price.</p><p> </p><p>I can answer the question about another profession where price hikes are acceptable too. I've seen it done in bars to undesirable patrons as a way of chasing them off. I've seen it done during estimates for construction jobs, structure moving jobs, as people do their jobs and become specialized or very adept and ask for raises they are essentially raising the price of their services, especially if they are the only one trained for a particular task. My favorite is the contractor who gets half done, then hikes the price.</p><p> </p><p>There. What did I miss?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="silentnviolent, post: 2000269, member: 8797"]agreed. To stay on topic, the problem really lies in asking for a 'best price.' It is a tactless and lazy method of negotiation best used when the deck is stacked in your favor as in the example given of that employed by Hardcore Pawn. When a person comes in selling their only items of value because they are in a bind for cash it is expected for pawn guys to act this way in their own store. If you are, as you say, on an even playing field with the coin dealer in the market place then neither is superior to the other either. if a coin is not priced, throw out your personal offer first and do the dance..... Ask what he needs for it, then assess it in front of him, with a counter offer. Skipping the art of negotiation by leading with "what's your best price" IS insulting. I'm no coin dealer either. If you can demonstrate some knowledge to be that I may learn something I didn't before would be worth a discounted price. If you show that you REALLY love it, you may sway the price by the end of a show. But.... If you cannot extend the courtesy of justification to the dealer for himself to take a loss, why should he take one? After all, there is something to be said for the ability to inspect in hand prior to purchase, vs waiting for delivery and or those 'unfortunate circumstances' that arise with packages in transit, the hassle and added cost of shipping returns, the time tied up and possible hassle of or wait for a refund.... All I say is, leading with "what's your best price" says to me: "Neither you as a person, nor this transaction is important enough to me to warrant my full attention for very long." So I can understand the response to that being "Neither is your business with me." Because as a buyer, I realize that I have all the time in the world to find what I'm looking for. Just the same way that as a coin dealer or any other owner of any other thing, I can pick and choose who I sell it to AND for which price. I can answer the question about another profession where price hikes are acceptable too. I've seen it done in bars to undesirable patrons as a way of chasing them off. I've seen it done during estimates for construction jobs, structure moving jobs, as people do their jobs and become specialized or very adept and ask for raises they are essentially raising the price of their services, especially if they are the only one trained for a particular task. My favorite is the contractor who gets half done, then hikes the price. There. What did I miss?[/QUOTE]
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