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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1989448, member: 15929"]No 2 is debatable in that defining a "sucker" in the coin collecting hobby is difficult since the guy/girl doing the purchase knows what they want and they are willing to pay for it. Are they "suckers" because they may not agree with a common perception bantered about on coin boards? Or are they "suckers" because they are ignorant?</p><p><br /></p><p>No 3 is spot on but then ownership adds a point (or two).</p><p><br /></p><p>No 4 is relative to the current TPG environment. For example, just because a coin, which is accurately graded, resides in an ANACS Slab, should it command a lessor premium than the exact same coin in a PCGS Slab?</p><p><br /></p><p>No 5 is spot on but then CAC coins do appear to attract premiums in the marketplace.</p><p><br /></p><p>No 8 usually is because folks don't necessarily shop for Numismatic Books at coin shows unless they know exactly what they want. I always stop by the supply dealers tables to browse the books. Usually, what I am looking for isn't there.</p><p><br /></p><p>No 11. Problem coins are either obvious of open to opinion. I have personally had occasion to disagree with a "cleaned" designation for a coin which I submitted that I believed full well had not been cleaned. A subsequent submission of the same coin garnered an MS grade. There are many album collectors out there that simply do not buy slabbed coins and better to sell to them than not sell at all as some don't really care, they only want to fill the hole in the book. I am not saying that its ethical to crack out an "obviously" problem coin but I am saying that I don't always agree with the assessment that some TPG's put on coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>No 12. Good as until a collector has put out $1,000 for a table at a Major Show, they will never understand why some dealers have high mark ups at coin shows. They will never understand why dealers are asking price guide value for the items they are selling. Now, if table space were FREE at major coin shows, I might have a different opinion. But table space costs money and the way I look at it is I am getting the opportunity to "look" first hand and make my own opinions on whether or not I want to buy.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>So often, coin talk is filled with negative opinions about coin dealers backed up with casual observations over some ethical issue. Granted, there are some dealers that you have to wonder what they are thinking but then, at a coin show, you have the option of simply moving to the next table. Unless, of course, you want to stand around and chat which is the other rewarding experience of attending a coin show.</p><p><br /></p><p>For the record, No 6 is the primary reason I do not attend EVERY Local Coin Show.</p><p><br /></p><p>I was at the Santa Clara Show this past weekend and was asking myself: "Did I look through this album at the Last Santa Clara Coin Show?" In some cases, I had, in other cases, I hadn't.</p><p><br /></p><p>I came away with absolutely nothing to share for my time at the show.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 1989448, member: 15929"]No 2 is debatable in that defining a "sucker" in the coin collecting hobby is difficult since the guy/girl doing the purchase knows what they want and they are willing to pay for it. Are they "suckers" because they may not agree with a common perception bantered about on coin boards? Or are they "suckers" because they are ignorant? No 3 is spot on but then ownership adds a point (or two). No 4 is relative to the current TPG environment. For example, just because a coin, which is accurately graded, resides in an ANACS Slab, should it command a lessor premium than the exact same coin in a PCGS Slab? No 5 is spot on but then CAC coins do appear to attract premiums in the marketplace. No 8 usually is because folks don't necessarily shop for Numismatic Books at coin shows unless they know exactly what they want. I always stop by the supply dealers tables to browse the books. Usually, what I am looking for isn't there. No 11. Problem coins are either obvious of open to opinion. I have personally had occasion to disagree with a "cleaned" designation for a coin which I submitted that I believed full well had not been cleaned. A subsequent submission of the same coin garnered an MS grade. There are many album collectors out there that simply do not buy slabbed coins and better to sell to them than not sell at all as some don't really care, they only want to fill the hole in the book. I am not saying that its ethical to crack out an "obviously" problem coin but I am saying that I don't always agree with the assessment that some TPG's put on coins. No 12. Good as until a collector has put out $1,000 for a table at a Major Show, they will never understand why some dealers have high mark ups at coin shows. They will never understand why dealers are asking price guide value for the items they are selling. Now, if table space were FREE at major coin shows, I might have a different opinion. But table space costs money and the way I look at it is I am getting the opportunity to "look" first hand and make my own opinions on whether or not I want to buy. So often, coin talk is filled with negative opinions about coin dealers backed up with casual observations over some ethical issue. Granted, there are some dealers that you have to wonder what they are thinking but then, at a coin show, you have the option of simply moving to the next table. Unless, of course, you want to stand around and chat which is the other rewarding experience of attending a coin show. For the record, No 6 is the primary reason I do not attend EVERY Local Coin Show. I was at the Santa Clara Show this past weekend and was asking myself: "Did I look through this album at the Last Santa Clara Coin Show?" In some cases, I had, in other cases, I hadn't. I came away with absolutely nothing to share for my time at the show.[/QUOTE]
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