Some observations from the coin show

I'll take my chance then on what my mind has perceived. If the alarm goes off in your head, there is a reason.

 

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The fact that this topic keeps reoccurring just shows that more then a few collectors have had a disproportional number of negative experiences beyond the statistical expected

 

I don't really like your tone.

 

My observation from today's show.

1. Hardly anybody showed up because Bears Packers Game. Poor planning. I spent an hour there in the morning and it was a pretty dismal show. I can only imagine what it was like at noon.

 

It's just something your head is imagining. :>)

 

I do not go to coin shows with the intention of buying nor do I feel obligated to buy. I go to view coins. to me part of a coin show is just that, a "Show". a place you can view high end coins in person. shows are great for new collectors who have not seen many coins in hand. I remember when I first started (not that long ago) I would be interested in a certain series, but wanted to see the coin in hand before buying.

with todays technology its easy buying coins online, and there are some great photographs of coins being sold. but nothing beats seeing a coin in person. some coins may appear much smaller, bigger in person.

as far as buying at shows ? well if you get lucky and find a great coin at a reasonable price, then thats a bonus.

learning about coins online or books is great, but nothing beats seeing the real thing in hand.

 

It's as ridiculous as a used car salesman, barbers, waiters, clerks, making etiquette suggestions to customers. Coin dealers have no special status. Zero, nada, none. In fact I would rate coin dealers with used car salesmen. Coin dealers are merely salespeople, waiting on me, nothing more. So a coin dealer suggesting how I should act when dealing with them is a joke.

 

Are we entirely certain that there aren't any coin dealers among the US prison population?

 

I can't help but post a recycled post from a different thread

 

I visited a local show yesterday, some of the things I was looking for were not to be had, but I did buy an 1910 Indian quarter eagle for 245, I know that these coins were counterfeited like crazy through the years, but no tooling marks that I saw especially around the back of the neck, no depressions in the coins surface, a few marks of handling, the coin did not have the appearance of being sent through a rock tumbler.
I usually see these coins about 280 or so, I am not sure about what they sell for on ebay since I do not patronize that venue.

The other thing I picked up was the last coin to complete my late fathers washington quarter set, he had picked up his coins from circulation back in the 1960s when he became interested in coins, but I have finished the last 4 from junque silver except for the 32-d and the final coin, a 32-s bought in a pcgs slab, graded as an xf45, the old cdn lists them at between 160 and 180, I paid 175.

I saw my first wayte raymond album, a year set that was filled from 1949 to 1956, the owner showed it to me and said it was so nice that he was not ever going to be in a hurry to sell it. He told me the coins were probably picked up at a bank as they came out, I did not challenge the assumption but these coins were blast white and my suspicion was that the owner bought the album in order to tone the coins.

So when he said he was not in a hurry to sell it , I told him I did not blame him, if it were mine I would not be selling it either.

The other purchase I picked up was Dr. Petersons attribution guide for bust half dollars, the first one I have seen and paid 95 for it, no signs of use, so it was if not new, it was like new.

One dealer had two small eagle 1795 dollars, one was marked details 30, harsh cleaning and boy that was an understatement the other was marked as a clean 15 , I thought maybe a details grade might be the way for me to get one of those small eagles for the collection, but he priced it at 4200 he said cdn listed a 30 as 4800,

I looked at lots of coins, and spent about two hours at the show, I spent less than half the money I brought, time to start saving up for the next show, which will probably be csns next april.

 

I saw that same album, i did not think it was original either. The franklins were blast white. He wanted a ton of money for it.

 

Why insult used car salesmen?

 

Yeah! I think I read Abraham Lincoln was a used car dealer, working his way through law school.

 

uh..
perhaps a used buggy dealer?

 

I know. He was good at it, they nicknamed him honest abe.

 

So where were you at the show, I was the guy with the light blue short sleeved shirt, mustache and tan khakis.I was out of there by noon, I looked at one seated dime in a 2x2 marked 1840 O but it was an 1849, thinking about it I should have bought a couple more coins but I wanted to get back to the house for brunch and football, the brunch was great, the football not so much.

 

Coin dealers are the last group of people I would take etiquette lessons from. Those that need to learn from coin dealers are very young, or very unworldly. I think I know which camp you fall into. When you mature you won't need to be tutored by groups of people that really need etiquette training more than most other types.

I can tell you are very impressionable. You also miss the issues frequently. One day you will learn that anybody (high school dropouts, felons, etc.) can be a coin dealer. Even used car salesmen need a license, but not coin dealers. There are no minimum requirements. There are no rules that govern them. If you need etiquette instructions from coin dealers you are in a world of hurt.

Quit being so easily swayed and manipulated by these people you see as god like figures. If a dealer says that's my best price don't turn tail and run. Make a counter. Don't be scared of some asinine rule fed to you by a dealer. Be a man, not a sheep.