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<p>[QUOTE="giorgio11, post: 2972217, member: 17094"]This is, frankly, a new area for me, although one I am getting intensely interested in. I found a post (2012) on another forum from a collector with far more experience than I in Spanish/Mexican numismatics, and with deference and thanks to TwoKopeiki, I hope he won't mind that I cut and pasted his entire note into my study materials. So far, I have only ordered three books: Resplandores: The Cap and Rays 8 Reales of The Republic of Mexico 1823–1897, by Mike Dunigan and J.B. Parker, is English-only. Hookneck/El Aguila de Perfil by Clyde Hubbard and David O'Harrow, is bilingual Spanish-English. The latest Guide Book of Mexican Coins that I could find (Krause Publications), the sixth edition (1992), is English-only.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's what TwoKopeiki had to say a few years back, on the subject of Spanish 8 Reales:</p><p>=================================================</p><p>"There are a few references available in English. The best I have found so far on 8 Reales that covers all Mints and rulers is the 1969 work in two volumes by Calbeto de Grau titled "Compendium de las Piezas de Ocho Reales." It's in both English and Spanish and provides background information as well as relative scarcity of individual year / mint / assayer / variety combination. I have found it the most useful general 8 Reales reference. It's also one of the more expensive ones. Right now AbeBooks lists a few sets with prices ranging $220 - $500.</p><p><br /></p><p>If you read spanish, "El Duro" also contains quite a bit of information on the series.</p><p><br /></p><p>"Numismatic History of Mexico" talks about coin production at Mexico City and other Mexico Provisional mints. It's also a pretty cheap book, in my opinion, for the amount of information (albeit dated when it comes to pricing) contained within.</p><p><br /></p><p>In fact, when it comes to pricing - there isn't a good reference out right now that would be considered reliable. Krause is the closest one in published form. Auction archives from US and Spain is a good way to monitor price trends.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a short list taken from a previous post:</p><p>Gilboy's "Columnarios" for the Pillar type Spanish American coins</p><p>Calbeto's "Compendium VIII Reales" Two volumes covers all mints</p><p>Hubbard and O'Harrow's "Hooknecks" - covers all die varieties of the Hookneck (Profile Eagle) Mexican 1823-1825. </p><p>Dunigan and Parker's "Resplandores" covers every major variety of Cap and Ray 8R from Mexico 1400 varieties 1823-1897</p><p>"Numismatica Espanol", 1998, by Calico & Trigo - useful, but in Spanish only</p><p>Cayon's "Las Monedas Espanolas" - covers all denominations, not only 8R - Spanish only</p><p>Buttrey and Hubbard's "a guide book of Mexican Coin 1822 to date." - includes minors, not only 8R</p><p>Hubbard's "Numismatic History of Mexico" - lots of info on individual mints including some war of independence information."</p><p>=================================================</p><p><br /></p><p>And again, thanks to knowledgeable collectors who help us neophytes get up to speed. Obviously, the information above is six years old, so there may be more current information available of which I am unaware. </p><p><br /></p><p>The<i> Resplandores </i>book by Dunigan and Parker is wonderful, a gorgeous book divided (logically) by the 14 mints that struck Cap and Rays 8 Reales. It is <i>the</i> reference for the series, and PCGS uses its attributions (Go54 is 1874-Go FR, the 54th date/assayer combo listed from Guanajuato) in its Registry Sets. It is somewhat dated but still essential, listing tons of varieties (overdates/overassayers' initials) and providing brief histories of each mint.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Hookneck/El Aguila de Perfil</i> is more specalized, treating the first-style [Hookneck] Republic 8 Reales of 1823–1825 struck variously at Mexico City, Durango, and Guanajuato. It includes patterns, theories about the design and its creators, sales records, counterstamps, overstrikes, medals, and counterfeits.</p><p><br /></p><p>I can tell already that I am going to have buy a copy of the Compendio Ocho Reales even though it's expensive ... I hope all this helps.</p><p><br /></p><p>Kind regards,</p><p><br /></p><p>George[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="giorgio11, post: 2972217, member: 17094"]This is, frankly, a new area for me, although one I am getting intensely interested in. I found a post (2012) on another forum from a collector with far more experience than I in Spanish/Mexican numismatics, and with deference and thanks to TwoKopeiki, I hope he won't mind that I cut and pasted his entire note into my study materials. So far, I have only ordered three books: Resplandores: The Cap and Rays 8 Reales of The Republic of Mexico 1823–1897, by Mike Dunigan and J.B. Parker, is English-only. Hookneck/El Aguila de Perfil by Clyde Hubbard and David O'Harrow, is bilingual Spanish-English. The latest Guide Book of Mexican Coins that I could find (Krause Publications), the sixth edition (1992), is English-only. Here's what TwoKopeiki had to say a few years back, on the subject of Spanish 8 Reales: ================================================= "There are a few references available in English. The best I have found so far on 8 Reales that covers all Mints and rulers is the 1969 work in two volumes by Calbeto de Grau titled "Compendium de las Piezas de Ocho Reales." It's in both English and Spanish and provides background information as well as relative scarcity of individual year / mint / assayer / variety combination. I have found it the most useful general 8 Reales reference. It's also one of the more expensive ones. Right now AbeBooks lists a few sets with prices ranging $220 - $500. If you read spanish, "El Duro" also contains quite a bit of information on the series. "Numismatic History of Mexico" talks about coin production at Mexico City and other Mexico Provisional mints. It's also a pretty cheap book, in my opinion, for the amount of information (albeit dated when it comes to pricing) contained within. In fact, when it comes to pricing - there isn't a good reference out right now that would be considered reliable. Krause is the closest one in published form. Auction archives from US and Spain is a good way to monitor price trends. Here's a short list taken from a previous post: Gilboy's "Columnarios" for the Pillar type Spanish American coins Calbeto's "Compendium VIII Reales" Two volumes covers all mints Hubbard and O'Harrow's "Hooknecks" - covers all die varieties of the Hookneck (Profile Eagle) Mexican 1823-1825. Dunigan and Parker's "Resplandores" covers every major variety of Cap and Ray 8R from Mexico 1400 varieties 1823-1897 "Numismatica Espanol", 1998, by Calico & Trigo - useful, but in Spanish only Cayon's "Las Monedas Espanolas" - covers all denominations, not only 8R - Spanish only Buttrey and Hubbard's "a guide book of Mexican Coin 1822 to date." - includes minors, not only 8R Hubbard's "Numismatic History of Mexico" - lots of info on individual mints including some war of independence information." ================================================= And again, thanks to knowledgeable collectors who help us neophytes get up to speed. Obviously, the information above is six years old, so there may be more current information available of which I am unaware. The[I] Resplandores [/I]book by Dunigan and Parker is wonderful, a gorgeous book divided (logically) by the 14 mints that struck Cap and Rays 8 Reales. It is [I]the[/I] reference for the series, and PCGS uses its attributions (Go54 is 1874-Go FR, the 54th date/assayer combo listed from Guanajuato) in its Registry Sets. It is somewhat dated but still essential, listing tons of varieties (overdates/overassayers' initials) and providing brief histories of each mint. [I]Hookneck/El Aguila de Perfil[/I] is more specalized, treating the first-style [Hookneck] Republic 8 Reales of 1823–1825 struck variously at Mexico City, Durango, and Guanajuato. It includes patterns, theories about the design and its creators, sales records, counterstamps, overstrikes, medals, and counterfeits. I can tell already that I am going to have buy a copy of the Compendio Ocho Reales even though it's expensive ... I hope all this helps. Kind regards, George[/QUOTE]
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