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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;bhp3rd, post: 508362, member: 16510&quot;]<b>I was fairly certain I gave all the mentioned exceptions already,</b></p><p><br /></p><p>You are right I&#039;ve just been on here a short time but I have been in coins for quite awhile and completely stand by my already stated opinions. More importantly I have already (several times) given any and all points that you are referring to that are exceptions as they are many.</p><p>We give nothing to the new collector/dealer if we do not give them the whole story about cleaning coins. If we say &quot;don&#039;t clean coins&quot; we are exposing only half or a smaller portion of the entire story..</p><p>A good analogy would be for young people - &quot;don&#039;t use drugs&quot; because they are bad! Then the first time they experiment with drugs they have the best time in their entire life. Then they think back at what we told them and immediately forever, incorrectly assume we have know idea what we are talking about. When we give them the truth - drugs are bad, plus they make people feel very good (at least for awhile), they are useful and needed, they have great potential for abuse but are also very useful in healing, etc., etc., - I hope you can see my point.</p><p>Now you say this has been discussed at nauseum before, how am I to know that? Maybe the person in charge of this site could program related discussions to pop up when they are started or posted, I don&#039;t know that would be pretty cool though but I have no idea if can be done.</p><p>Till then, until you&#039;all kick me off for some unknown reason I will give my opinions as I ascertain them to be true and complete.</p><p>After living this long and knowing that there are very few absolute truths (black or white answers) in the world I will give all sides of issues especially the ones people are reluctant to talk about - that&#039;s just me.</p><p>Ben Peters[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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