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<p>[QUOTE="ChangeinHistory, post: 2362799, member: 75397"]To start with, I'm excited for you in doing this project. You have a great start. There's been very sound advice here and I'm sure there's more to come.</p><p><br /></p><p>About 8-9 years ago I taught a few non-credit coin courses at a couple local community colleges. For what it's worth, you're welcome to this handout I had for the class. You've touched on a majority of this already.</p><p>Basic numismatic advice (in no particular order)</p><p><br /></p><ol> <li>There is no Santa Clause in coin collecting, if it’s too good to be true, it is.</li> <li>Learn how to grade coins for yourself. People usually start with circulated grades and then move on to grading Mint State or Uncirculated coins.</li> <li>Average circulated really means About Good/or at best Good-4.</li> <li>Be very careful when buying a raw (uncertified), expensive high-grade Mint State coin.(MS-60 or higher) If it was truly the grade the seller is claiming, it would probably be certified. Buy certified until you really know how to grade MS coins.</li> <li><u>Dipping is to be done only when necessary. Consult an expert. <b>You can never replace originality.</b></u></li> </ol><p>Using acetone on a coin is for removing dirt or verdigris. It does not remove any metal from the coin. Whether or not dipping or even using acetone is considered cleaning is debatable.</p><p><br /></p><ol> <li> Experiment on cheap, toned, uncirculated coins before you dip a more valuable coin.</li> <li>Some toning is desirable and can command a premium. Be aware that there are artificially toned coins out there and they should only be purchased at a discount – unless you know it’s ‘AT’ and you still like it. Knowing the difference between naturally toned and artificially toned coins is another debatable aspect of collecting. Experience and lots of browsing will help. A pretty reputable collector offered up this: Purple and green rarely are seen together, usually the pattern of true color would have violet, magenta, light blue, gold, and green. Purple is a red flag.</li> <li>Develop a rapport/relationship with a dealer you like. If you agree with their grading for the most part and their pricing, they may offer you better prices in time. They may also help you fulfill a ‘want list’-coins you need for your collection.</li> <li>If you rely on a particular dealer for advice, and he spends time talking with you, it’s always smart to make regular/occassional purchases. It’s really more of a common courtesy.</li> <li>In general if you know a dealer is overgrading their coins, simply walk away. It is generally poor form to argue grades on the bourse floor. Never argue grades at an auction-simply limit your bidding.</li> <li>Home-Shopping Network, Coin Vault, and shows like that are the worst places to buy coins. Flea markets and E-Bay <i>can</i> be second worse.</li> <li>Realize that some characteristics are more common in some series than others. Most S mint Morgan dollars have great luster in Unc. Grades, many Standing Liberty Quarters do not have a ‘full head’ in Unc. Grades, most of the D and S mint Buffalo Nickels in the teens and ‘20’s have very weak strikes, etc. There are particulars to every series</li> <li>Grading Mint State coins- Marks, Luster, Strike, and Eye Appeal.</li> <li>Grading circulated coins- Marks/wear, Strike, and Eye Appeal. Luster is not really a factor for EF-40 coins or lower.</li> <li>Learn how to grade.</li> <li>Guaranteed unsearched—misused term. Never buy an item that uses this phrase.</li> <li>Store your coins carefully—we are just temporary caretakers of these items for the next generation.</li> <li>Grading is an art-not a science. There are slight differences in grading standards between PCGS, Photograde, NGC, and the ANA.</li> <li>Learn how to find certain designations on coins. For example, Full Bell Line for Franklin Halves, or Full Split Bands on Mercury Dimes or Roosevelt Dimes are extra designations that are usually separate from grade. Certain Third Party Grading companies have different criteria for these designations. For instance, it’s very tough to get a full bell line designation on Franklin Halves from NGC and a bit easier to get it from PCGS. The forums from Collectors Universe and Collectors Society and Cointalk.com are great places on the web to hear what experienced collectors think on this subject.</li> <li>Collect what you like, mainstream or obscure. </li> <li>Look at thousands of coins and learn how to grade. It will be fun,… honest.</li> <li>Go to coin shows in your area as often as you can. These are listed toward the back in Coin World or Numismatic News.</li> <li>Be careful when buying heavily toned coins that look too good to be true-they have usually been doctored or artificially toned. Artificial toning usually floats on the surface of a coin whereas natural toning seems to come from within the coin. Even advanced collectors have trouble with this one. Again, go to the discussion forums and you will see lots of examples and opinions.</li> <li>Network with other dealers and collectors, and join a club.</li> <li>Really learn how to grade. </li> </ol><p>Have fun[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ChangeinHistory, post: 2362799, member: 75397"]To start with, I'm excited for you in doing this project. You have a great start. There's been very sound advice here and I'm sure there's more to come. About 8-9 years ago I taught a few non-credit coin courses at a couple local community colleges. For what it's worth, you're welcome to this handout I had for the class. You've touched on a majority of this already. Basic numismatic advice (in no particular order) [LIST=1] [*]There is no Santa Clause in coin collecting, if it’s too good to be true, it is. [*]Learn how to grade coins for yourself. People usually start with circulated grades and then move on to grading Mint State or Uncirculated coins. [*]Average circulated really means About Good/or at best Good-4. [*]Be very careful when buying a raw (uncertified), expensive high-grade Mint State coin.(MS-60 or higher) If it was truly the grade the seller is claiming, it would probably be certified. Buy certified until you really know how to grade MS coins. [*][U]Dipping is to be done only when necessary. Consult an expert. [B]You can never replace originality.[/B][/U] [/LIST] Using acetone on a coin is for removing dirt or verdigris. It does not remove any metal from the coin. Whether or not dipping or even using acetone is considered cleaning is debatable. [LIST=1] [*] Experiment on cheap, toned, uncirculated coins before you dip a more valuable coin. [*]Some toning is desirable and can command a premium. Be aware that there are artificially toned coins out there and they should only be purchased at a discount – unless you know it’s ‘AT’ and you still like it. Knowing the difference between naturally toned and artificially toned coins is another debatable aspect of collecting. Experience and lots of browsing will help. A pretty reputable collector offered up this: Purple and green rarely are seen together, usually the pattern of true color would have violet, magenta, light blue, gold, and green. Purple is a red flag. [*]Develop a rapport/relationship with a dealer you like. If you agree with their grading for the most part and their pricing, they may offer you better prices in time. They may also help you fulfill a ‘want list’-coins you need for your collection. [*]If you rely on a particular dealer for advice, and he spends time talking with you, it’s always smart to make regular/occassional purchases. It’s really more of a common courtesy. [*]In general if you know a dealer is overgrading their coins, simply walk away. It is generally poor form to argue grades on the bourse floor. Never argue grades at an auction-simply limit your bidding. [*]Home-Shopping Network, Coin Vault, and shows like that are the worst places to buy coins. Flea markets and E-Bay [I]can[/I] be second worse. [*]Realize that some characteristics are more common in some series than others. Most S mint Morgan dollars have great luster in Unc. Grades, many Standing Liberty Quarters do not have a ‘full head’ in Unc. Grades, most of the D and S mint Buffalo Nickels in the teens and ‘20’s have very weak strikes, etc. There are particulars to every series [*]Grading Mint State coins- Marks, Luster, Strike, and Eye Appeal. [*]Grading circulated coins- Marks/wear, Strike, and Eye Appeal. Luster is not really a factor for EF-40 coins or lower. [*]Learn how to grade. [*]Guaranteed unsearched—misused term. Never buy an item that uses this phrase. [*]Store your coins carefully—we are just temporary caretakers of these items for the next generation. [*]Grading is an art-not a science. There are slight differences in grading standards between PCGS, Photograde, NGC, and the ANA. [*]Learn how to find certain designations on coins. For example, Full Bell Line for Franklin Halves, or Full Split Bands on Mercury Dimes or Roosevelt Dimes are extra designations that are usually separate from grade. Certain Third Party Grading companies have different criteria for these designations. For instance, it’s very tough to get a full bell line designation on Franklin Halves from NGC and a bit easier to get it from PCGS. The forums from Collectors Universe and Collectors Society and Cointalk.com are great places on the web to hear what experienced collectors think on this subject. [*]Collect what you like, mainstream or obscure. [*]Look at thousands of coins and learn how to grade. It will be fun,… honest. [*]Go to coin shows in your area as often as you can. These are listed toward the back in Coin World or Numismatic News. [*]Be careful when buying heavily toned coins that look too good to be true-they have usually been doctored or artificially toned. Artificial toning usually floats on the surface of a coin whereas natural toning seems to come from within the coin. Even advanced collectors have trouble with this one. Again, go to the discussion forums and you will see lots of examples and opinions. [*]Network with other dealers and collectors, and join a club. [*]Really learn how to grade. [/LIST] Have fun[/QUOTE]
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