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<p>[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8243011, member: 26430"]<b>Do you have any ex-CT Member coins that were the subjects of interesting posts or comments? </b></p><p><br /></p><p>I think it’s been a while since there was a post on this theme, but I've acquired a few new ex-Cointalk member coins that were the subjects of previous owners' post (I already let [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] & [USER=56976]@Bob L.[/USER] and [USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER] below know). Looking back, I can think of at least 9 (coins or groups) that I’ve acquired in the past 2-3 years with interesting CoinTalk backstories.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's one I just noticed was posted on CoinTalk -- and share's a provenance to the same group lot as not only [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] 's but [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] 's (warning: three different Curtises mentioned in short space below, including me [USER=26430]@Curtis[/USER] who will soon add a "JJ" if usernames can be modified!).</p><p><br /></p><p>Dattari <b>--></b> Grover <b>--> </b>Chicago Art Institute <b>--></b>Gemini XIII (cataloged by [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER] [see, e.g., <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/6516651/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/6516651/">CT Post 6516651</a>, discussing [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] 's coin, which is indeed from Lot 460, same as mine, see below -- ]) <b>--></b> [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] <b>--> </b>Minotaur Coins</p><p><br /></p><p>It took me a while to find [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] ’s photo, but I was confident it was out there; I recognized the style of his website/shop photo from CT. In 2017, <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/billon-comes-in-many-colors.296020/#post-2733488" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/billon-comes-in-many-colors.296020/#post-2733488">he shared it here</a> (CT 296020 / Post 2733488) in an envy-inducing group shot with the other tetradrachms from Lot 460 at Gemini XIII ... <i>including [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] 's coin from</i> <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/375671/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/375671/">CT 375671</a>! (Gemini didn't photo the big groups.) (From the same auction, a different group lot led to [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] & [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] 's memorable and inspiring “Co-dependent collecting” episode! <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2932107/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2932107/">His account of it</a>; <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/co-dependent-collecting.296758/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/co-dependent-collecting.296758/">her classic post on the subject</a>.)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451241[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>When I saw the following in a recent CNG group lot, I knew that each Titus denarius had its own post on CT (and elsewhere), including informative conversations among specialists (<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-placeholder-coin.375002/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-placeholder-coin.375002/">Cointalk 375002</a>; <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-titus-denarius.334573/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-titus-denarius.334573/">Cointalk 334573</a>; <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-published-coin.381233/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-published-coin.381233/">Cointalk 381233</a>; <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an-interesting-titus-time-to-count-palmettes.337327/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an-interesting-titus-time-to-count-palmettes.337327/">Cointalk 337327</a>; several have exciting histories, including the coin cut for science.)</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451216[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>One of my favorite secondary interests is what ancient coins mean to their collectors, and how coins (and knowledge about them) are used and circulated. Many of those posted on CT are among my favorites for the rich record they’ve left of their networks of collectors, dealers, scholars, and publications.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I was excited to notice many of [USER=56976]@Bob L.[/USER] ’s Parthian fractions at CNG, previously the subject of several threads culminating in a <i>KOINON I</i> chapter, including <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/highlighting-parthian-ar-fractions.295640/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/highlighting-parthian-ar-fractions.295640/">CT 295640, "Highlighting Parthian AR Fractions"</a>:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451219[/ATTACH] </p><p>There is even a March 2017 thread elsewhere (<a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=111223" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=111223" rel="nofollow">FAC 111223</a>) in which Walter Holt comments that it could make a nice <i>KOINON</i> contribution (in 2018 it was), followed by a “thumbs up” icon from the general editor, Nick Molinari! Nice little vignette in numismatic history.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hoping not to embarrass or put anyone on the spot, of course… My apologies if I have. I’m sure [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trajan-deciuss-family-portrait-s-and-reverses.330031/#post-3293837" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trajan-deciuss-family-portrait-s-and-reverses.330031/#post-3293837">isn’t alone in the following sentiment</a>:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I accept his point, though, of course, the audience also gets a say in authorship. In Doug’s defense, he did call the following coin (one of several I got from Ancient & Medieval Coins Canada Auction 2 [AMCC 2]) <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2389203/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2389203/">a “real junker” in one post</a> before selling it!</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451228[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>It came with his hand-written & numbered envelope (#3052) in the style shown in his <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2876404" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2876404">comment here</a> (CT 304218/Post 2876404)). Reportedly ex Don Zauche (d. 2019, Westminster, MD), 2013; ex <a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511192" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511192" rel="nofollow">AMCC Auction 2 (9 November 2019), Lot 414</a> (“pick-bin”), w/ small inv. tags & notes added to coll. envelope (“2Ao,” “G01915,” another “3052”).</p><p><br /></p><p>I don’t know if the pseudonymous “JB (Edmonton, d. 2019)” was a CT member, but I believe [USER=86498]@Terence Cheesman[/USER] curated his estate’s dispersal, from whose comments I’ve gleaned a few precious biographical details. Remarkably, without trying to, I acquired JB coins from at least four sources in 2019: AMCC 2 (cataloged by [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER] ?); VAuctions-Triskeles; CNG; and a group of Roman bronze and silver coins that my uncle reportedly bought from the widow of a collector in Wisconsin (presumably a different collector; maybe he knew JB?). I only know where JB got one coin, the Tarsos Stater (I’m still searching for any record of the Metapontum):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451229[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><b>Yet others from AMCC 2:</b></p><p><br /></p><p>Forum Ancient Coins (<a href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=36361q00.jpg&vpar=797&zpg=47237&fld=" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=36361q00.jpg&vpar=797&zpg=47237&fld=" rel="nofollow">SH36361</a>, n.d., before Sep 2017) <b>--></b> [USER=87080]@TheRed[/USER] (CT Posts) <b>--></b> AMCC 2. I understand why [USER=87080]@TheRed[/USER] once called it <a href="https://d.docs.live.net/cbf0e6f1b8baa8e5/Desktop/Ancient%20Coins%202020/cointalk.com/threads/a-large-byzantine-half-follis.311731/#post-3005007" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://d.docs.live.net/cbf0e6f1b8baa8e5/Desktop/Ancient%20Coins%202020/cointalk.com/threads/a-large-byzantine-half-follis.311731/#post-3005007" rel="nofollow">“by far my favorite” follis</a> (CT 311731/#post-3005007; appeared on CT at least four times, 2017-2019):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451230[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>E.E. Clain-Stefanelli <b>--></b> Stack’s / NAC / Naville <b>--></b> Orfew (CT Thread) <b>--></b> AMCC 2. [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] gave this one a nice post in 2017 (<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-coin-outside-of-my-usual-hunting-grounds-quintillus.305115/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-coin-outside-of-my-usual-hunting-grounds-quintillus.305115/">CT 305115, "A coin outside of my usual hunting grounds-Quintillus"</a>). It came with several pieces of paperwork on the coin’s collection history (including Clain-Stefanelli’s tag), all of which is now either in an envelope with the coin or a labeled file folder, which is how I store such materials whenever available:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451237[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>One for my “Captives” Collection, [USER=87404]@Justin Lee[/USER] iOmega Collection, <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/handful-of-recent-deliveries.326952/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/handful-of-recent-deliveries.326952/">posted with 5 others here</a> in 2018 (CT 326952), and on his website (now in his <a href="https://iomegacollection.home.blog/category/sold-coins/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://iomegacollection.home.blog/category/sold-coins/" rel="nofollow">Sold Coins page</a>, which is a great thing to include on a website!) <b>--></b> AMCC<b>--></b> now also on my “<a href="https://conservatoricoins.com/selections-from-the-bce-collection/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://conservatoricoins.com/selections-from-the-bce-collection/" rel="nofollow">Barbarians, Captives, Enemies (BCE Collection)</a>” page: </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451240[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Lastly, a non-AMCC coin, from “The Other A.K.” <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Collection (and his <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudius-sestertius-with-ncapr-counterstamp.334702/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudius-sestertius-with-ncapr-counterstamp.334702/">Claudius NCAPR ex Richard Baker Countermark Collection</a>):</p><p><br /></p><p>“<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/egyptian-drachm-with-a-provenance.354986/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/egyptian-drachm-with-a-provenance.354986/">Egyptian Drachm with a Provenance</a>” from V. Ruzicka Coll. <b>--></b> K. Wetterstrom Collection <b>--></b> Morris / Phil Peck (thanks also [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER] for sharing more info about Peck in various CT comments in recent years, such as [<a href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4195978/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4195978/">CT 355927, Comment 4195978</a>]) <b>--></b> Heritage <b>--></b> @AlKowsky <b>--> </b>CNG <b>--></b></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1451243[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p><i>PHOTO from Al Kowsky’s post (now encapsulated)</i></p><p><br /></p><p><b>Please share anything you deem relevant!</b>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Curtis, post: 8243011, member: 26430"][B]Do you have any ex-CT Member coins that were the subjects of interesting posts or comments? [/B] I think it’s been a while since there was a post on this theme, but I've acquired a few new ex-Cointalk member coins that were the subjects of previous owners' post (I already let [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] & [USER=56976]@Bob L.[/USER] and [USER=97383]@Al Kowsky[/USER] below know). Looking back, I can think of at least 9 (coins or groups) that I’ve acquired in the past 2-3 years with interesting CoinTalk backstories. Here's one I just noticed was posted on CoinTalk -- and share's a provenance to the same group lot as not only [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] 's but [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] 's (warning: three different Curtises mentioned in short space below, including me [USER=26430]@Curtis[/USER] who will soon add a "JJ" if usernames can be modified!). Dattari [B]-->[/B] Grover [B]--> [/B]Chicago Art Institute [B]-->[/B]Gemini XIII (cataloged by [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER] [see, e.g., [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/6516651/']CT Post 6516651[/URL], discussing [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] 's coin, which is indeed from Lot 460, same as mine, see below -- ]) [B]-->[/B] [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] [B]--> [/B]Minotaur Coins It took me a while to find [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] ’s photo, but I was confident it was out there; I recognized the style of his website/shop photo from CT. In 2017, [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/billon-comes-in-many-colors.296020/#post-2733488']he shared it here[/URL] (CT 296020 / Post 2733488) in an envy-inducing group shot with the other tetradrachms from Lot 460 at Gemini XIII ... [I]including [USER=83845]@Curtisimo[/USER] 's coin from[/I] [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/375671/']CT 375671[/URL]! (Gemini didn't photo the big groups.) (From the same auction, a different group lot led to [USER=57495]@zumbly[/USER] & [USER=56859]@TIF[/USER] 's memorable and inspiring “Co-dependent collecting” episode! [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2932107/']His account of it[/URL]; [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/co-dependent-collecting.296758/']her classic post on the subject[/URL].) [ATTACH=full]1451241[/ATTACH] When I saw the following in a recent CNG group lot, I knew that each Titus denarius had its own post on CT (and elsewhere), including informative conversations among specialists ([URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-placeholder-coin.375002/']Cointalk 375002[/URL]; [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/rare-titus-denarius.334573/']Cointalk 334573[/URL]; [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/interesting-published-coin.381233/']Cointalk 381233[/URL]; [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an-interesting-titus-time-to-count-palmettes.337327/']Cointalk 337327[/URL]; several have exciting histories, including the coin cut for science.) [ATTACH=full]1451216[/ATTACH] One of my favorite secondary interests is what ancient coins mean to their collectors, and how coins (and knowledge about them) are used and circulated. Many of those posted on CT are among my favorites for the rich record they’ve left of their networks of collectors, dealers, scholars, and publications. So I was excited to notice many of [USER=56976]@Bob L.[/USER] ’s Parthian fractions at CNG, previously the subject of several threads culminating in a [I]KOINON I[/I] chapter, including [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/highlighting-parthian-ar-fractions.295640/']CT 295640, "Highlighting Parthian AR Fractions"[/URL]: [ATTACH=full]1451219[/ATTACH] There is even a March 2017 thread elsewhere ([URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=111223']FAC 111223[/URL]) in which Walter Holt comments that it could make a nice [I]KOINON[/I] contribution (in 2018 it was), followed by a “thumbs up” icon from the general editor, Nick Molinari! Nice little vignette in numismatic history. Hoping not to embarrass or put anyone on the spot, of course… My apologies if I have. I’m sure [USER=19463]@dougsmit[/USER] [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/trajan-deciuss-family-portrait-s-and-reverses.330031/#post-3293837']isn’t alone in the following sentiment[/URL]: I accept his point, though, of course, the audience also gets a say in authorship. In Doug’s defense, he did call the following coin (one of several I got from Ancient & Medieval Coins Canada Auction 2 [AMCC 2]) [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2389203/']a “real junker” in one post[/URL] before selling it! [ATTACH=full]1451228[/ATTACH] It came with his hand-written & numbered envelope (#3052) in the style shown in his [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/2876404']comment here[/URL] (CT 304218/Post 2876404)). Reportedly ex Don Zauche (d. 2019, Westminster, MD), 2013; ex [URL='https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6511192']AMCC Auction 2 (9 November 2019), Lot 414[/URL] (“pick-bin”), w/ small inv. tags & notes added to coll. envelope (“2Ao,” “G01915,” another “3052”). I don’t know if the pseudonymous “JB (Edmonton, d. 2019)” was a CT member, but I believe [USER=86498]@Terence Cheesman[/USER] curated his estate’s dispersal, from whose comments I’ve gleaned a few precious biographical details. Remarkably, without trying to, I acquired JB coins from at least four sources in 2019: AMCC 2 (cataloged by [USER=84744]@Severus Alexander[/USER] ?); VAuctions-Triskeles; CNG; and a group of Roman bronze and silver coins that my uncle reportedly bought from the widow of a collector in Wisconsin (presumably a different collector; maybe he knew JB?). I only know where JB got one coin, the Tarsos Stater (I’m still searching for any record of the Metapontum): [ATTACH=full]1451229[/ATTACH] [B]Yet others from AMCC 2:[/B] Forum Ancient Coins ([URL='https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=36361q00.jpg&vpar=797&zpg=47237&fld=']SH36361[/URL], n.d., before Sep 2017) [B]-->[/B] [USER=87080]@TheRed[/USER] (CT Posts) [B]-->[/B] AMCC 2. I understand why [USER=87080]@TheRed[/USER] once called it [URL='https://d.docs.live.net/cbf0e6f1b8baa8e5/Desktop/Ancient%20Coins%202020/cointalk.com/threads/a-large-byzantine-half-follis.311731/#post-3005007']“by far my favorite” follis[/URL] (CT 311731/#post-3005007; appeared on CT at least four times, 2017-2019): [ATTACH=full]1451230[/ATTACH] E.E. Clain-Stefanelli [B]-->[/B] Stack’s / NAC / Naville [B]-->[/B] Orfew (CT Thread) [B]-->[/B] AMCC 2. [USER=74968]@Orfew[/USER] gave this one a nice post in 2017 ([URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/a-coin-outside-of-my-usual-hunting-grounds-quintillus.305115/']CT 305115, "A coin outside of my usual hunting grounds-Quintillus"[/URL]). It came with several pieces of paperwork on the coin’s collection history (including Clain-Stefanelli’s tag), all of which is now either in an envelope with the coin or a labeled file folder, which is how I store such materials whenever available: [ATTACH=full]1451237[/ATTACH] One for my “Captives” Collection, [USER=87404]@Justin Lee[/USER] iOmega Collection, [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/handful-of-recent-deliveries.326952/']posted with 5 others here[/URL] in 2018 (CT 326952), and on his website (now in his [URL='https://iomegacollection.home.blog/category/sold-coins/']Sold Coins page[/URL], which is a great thing to include on a website!) [B]-->[/B] AMCC[B]-->[/B] now also on my “[URL='https://conservatoricoins.com/selections-from-the-bce-collection/']Barbarians, Captives, Enemies (BCE Collection)[/URL]” page: [ATTACH=full]1451240[/ATTACH] Lastly, a non-AMCC coin, from “The Other A.K.” ;) Collection (and his [URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/claudius-sestertius-with-ncapr-counterstamp.334702/']Claudius NCAPR ex Richard Baker Countermark Collection[/URL]): “[URL='https://www.cointalk.com/threads/egyptian-drachm-with-a-provenance.354986/']Egyptian Drachm with a Provenance[/URL]” from V. Ruzicka Coll. [B]-->[/B] K. Wetterstrom Collection [B]-->[/B] Morris / Phil Peck (thanks also [USER=89514]@curtislclay[/USER] for sharing more info about Peck in various CT comments in recent years, such as [[URL='https://www.cointalk.com/posts/4195978/']CT 355927, Comment 4195978[/URL]]) [B]-->[/B] Heritage [B]-->[/B] @AlKowsky [B]--> [/B]CNG [B]-->[/B] [ATTACH=full]1451243[/ATTACH] [I]PHOTO from Al Kowsky’s post (now encapsulated)[/I] [B]Please share anything you deem relevant![/B][/QUOTE]
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