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<p>[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 2811871, member: 78244"]The 1835 is by far the easiest to spot of the three, mainly because of the reverse. The obverse has a lack of definition, particularly around the devices.</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight is 5.2g.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I like to call it "fuzzy," because the surfaces of the devices have an as-struck fuzziness about them, and the edges of the devices are not sharply defined. It is most easily seen through a loupe.</p><p><br /></p><p>Weight is 10.3g.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The edges of these couns tell the whole story. They appear to be made by modern machinery, and are all struck in collars. The half cents would not be struck in collars (at least not the earlier ones), so they are inconsistent with mint practices.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The spike is there, but somewhat hard to see in the pictures. They also made 1802 and 1803 half cents with a spiked chin before they figured it out and tooled the spike away. The reverse die used by the Chinese is the same for all of the draped bust half cents, and the diagnostic is the crack under 200. The dates are all wrong for all of these except the 1804, which is why I posted it first.</p><p><br /></p><p>Weights for these are 5.3-5.5g.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]658264[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]658265[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TypeCoin971793, post: 2811871, member: 78244"]The 1835 is by far the easiest to spot of the three, mainly because of the reverse. The obverse has a lack of definition, particularly around the devices. Weight is 5.2g. I like to call it "fuzzy," because the surfaces of the devices have an as-struck fuzziness about them, and the edges of the devices are not sharply defined. It is most easily seen through a loupe. Weight is 10.3g. The edges of these couns tell the whole story. They appear to be made by modern machinery, and are all struck in collars. The half cents would not be struck in collars (at least not the earlier ones), so they are inconsistent with mint practices. The spike is there, but somewhat hard to see in the pictures. They also made 1802 and 1803 half cents with a spiked chin before they figured it out and tooled the spike away. The reverse die used by the Chinese is the same for all of the draped bust half cents, and the diagnostic is the crack under 200. The dates are all wrong for all of these except the 1804, which is why I posted it first. Weights for these are 5.3-5.5g. [ATTACH=full]658264[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]658265[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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