Some Ancient Roman

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by SIASL, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. SIASL

    SIASL New Member

    Hello, first post. I have come across a few old Roman denarius and think I’ve ID’d them - Galba, Otho, & Nero.

    What are the particulars I should know about them?

    Thanks
    New guy
     

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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    You should know that these are some of the most frequently faked coins on the market. I'm not saying that yours are faked, but I want to know more about how you came about them -- where you bought them and so forth. It would be much more helpful if you showed close-ups of each coin individually, including some photos of the edge. Knowing how much each weighs in grams would be helpful, too.
     
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  4. Ryro

    Ryro Change your thoughts. Change the world. Supporter

    Welcome. May I ask where you picked these up from?
    I think I can see seems around the edges.
     
  5. SIASL

    SIASL New Member

    Passed down to me in family. They were mixed in a bag with other coins. Mostly wheat pennies but a lot of US silver and others.
     
  6. SIASL

    SIASL New Member

    Handful of Morgan dollars, etc
     
  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Supporter! Supporter

    Odd way to store $1200-1500 dollars worth of coins. I'm suspicious.
     
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  8. SIASL

    SIASL New Member

    What are the particulars I should know about them? My wife and I will probably have them checked out by a couple of shops local to me to authenticate in the next few days probably
     
  9. SIASL

    SIASL New Member

    Well, I can’t tell you why they were stored in a bag with other coins but that they are no longer kept that way now. Hopefully will be told real within the next few days.
     
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  10. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    The style looks about right, so they are not obvious forgeries. But I think a lot of us here are wondering if they are cast copies. If they are, any reputable coin dealer should be able to tell you this pretty easily.

    But if they do turn out to be genuine, you are 25% of your way to a nice 12 Caesars collection.
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    to me, from what i can see, they look to be authentic... but that's not any guarantee, by no means.. FAUSTA NGC LETTER 005.JPG
     
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  12. Theodosius

    Theodosius Unrepentant Fine Style Freak! Supporter

    Welcome to cointalk!

    There are many reasonably priced ancients available from reputable dealers like those on vcoins.com.

    Ancients are a fascinating area to collect.

    John
     
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  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    All three are fake.
     
  14. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Dombes collector Supporter

    They sure don't look good to me either
    I wish I'm wrong

    Q
     
  15. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter Redditor Lucis Aeternae

    Seem to be casts, unfortunately.
     
  16. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Be certain that the "local coin shop" person is an expert on ancient coinage. The vast majority of such local coin shops know little about ancient coinage, let alone authenticating them.
    A person named David Sear is an expert on authentication, but it is not free. Google "David Sear coin authentication services" and go from there.
     
  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning. Supporter

    Hi SIASL,

    Unfortunately, Ryro and others are right. These are cast fakes. You can seen the seams on all of the coins (less so on the "Galba"), plus there are other signs of casting.

    CT-SIASL-FakeOthoDenarius.jpg
    CT-SIASL-FakeNeroDenarius.jpg
    CT-SIASL-FakeGalbaDenarius.jpg
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I saw these early today, but was reluctant to say I felt they looked fake. I hate using the "F" word. However, IMHO they are fakes.
     
  19. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Great job, TIF . From my 12 Caesar set, the real McCoy:

    P1220042a othobest.jpg P1220065 Numismatik Naumann 141 euro.jpg P1230299.JPG
     
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  20. SIASL

    SIASL New Member

    Not that I would know what I’m looking at but I do see some major differences. Thanks to you all for your help.
     
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