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<p>[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 3872812, member: 66"]Yes, and everyone would be complaining that they spent $70 for something that is now worth only $50 in the aftermarket.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, they are simply manufactured, people figure out how to game the system to increase the odds that they will be successful or get multiples.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No, their system is simply being overwhelmed, in effect it is a Denial of Service Attack, more requests for service than a system can handle and it crashes.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You would still be trying to get through or on hold.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>As soon as people got the notice it was sold out they stopped trying and the queue evaporated rapidly.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>They can't, that's why it crashed.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Think that would make the people who miss out in the lottery feel any better?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The mint has never been good at figuring out the proper number to offer to both keep interest high, and not make people mad due to a fast sell out. And if they make enough to be sure that everyone who want one can get it, people stay away in droves, the price falls on the aftermarket and the collectors complain about THAT.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>You going to design an order taking system, what capacity do you design it to handle? Oversizing it means a lot of expensive equipment that will spend most of the time just sitting around idle. Most businesses would probably design to handle 3 to 4 times their average daily business. In the past 7 days the mint handled around 40,000 orders, call it 6,000 a day. So design it to handle 24,000 orders a day. (due to past problems they probably did it even higher) At noon today it got hit at a rate that would have equaled over 43,000,000 a day. So if you are designing the system that averages 6,000 orders a day, do you design, and equip it to handle 43 million? Over 7,200 times more than it typically needs to handle?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>True, and there would be a lot of complaints about it being less than issue price in the aftermarket.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well their system was BUSY, they got to it eventually. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>No they are just producing, the mint gets no extra benefit from the flippers and dealers. They simply take steps to ensure they get the product they need. A lot of those flippers are just other collectors who use the same tactic tha the home shopping and big dealers use. They got all of their friends and relatives to go online at noon and order for them. They got no special treatment from the mint.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In that case every mid size dealer and larger, and the tv shopping people, gets special treatment and is assured of getting theirs before the collectors do.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Conder101, post: 3872812, member: 66"]Yes, and everyone would be complaining that they spent $70 for something that is now worth only $50 in the aftermarket. No, they are simply manufactured, people figure out how to game the system to increase the odds that they will be successful or get multiples. No, their system is simply being overwhelmed, in effect it is a Denial of Service Attack, more requests for service than a system can handle and it crashes. You would still be trying to get through or on hold. As soon as people got the notice it was sold out they stopped trying and the queue evaporated rapidly. They can't, that's why it crashed. Think that would make the people who miss out in the lottery feel any better? The mint has never been good at figuring out the proper number to offer to both keep interest high, and not make people mad due to a fast sell out. And if they make enough to be sure that everyone who want one can get it, people stay away in droves, the price falls on the aftermarket and the collectors complain about THAT. You going to design an order taking system, what capacity do you design it to handle? Oversizing it means a lot of expensive equipment that will spend most of the time just sitting around idle. Most businesses would probably design to handle 3 to 4 times their average daily business. In the past 7 days the mint handled around 40,000 orders, call it 6,000 a day. So design it to handle 24,000 orders a day. (due to past problems they probably did it even higher) At noon today it got hit at a rate that would have equaled over 43,000,000 a day. So if you are designing the system that averages 6,000 orders a day, do you design, and equip it to handle 43 million? Over 7,200 times more than it typically needs to handle? True, and there would be a lot of complaints about it being less than issue price in the aftermarket. Well their system was BUSY, they got to it eventually. :) No they are just producing, the mint gets no extra benefit from the flippers and dealers. They simply take steps to ensure they get the product they need. A lot of those flippers are just other collectors who use the same tactic tha the home shopping and big dealers use. They got all of their friends and relatives to go online at noon and order for them. They got no special treatment from the mint. In that case every mid size dealer and larger, and the tv shopping people, gets special treatment and is assured of getting theirs before the collectors do.[/QUOTE]
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