So what exactly is this?

Discussion in 'Coin Roll Hunting' started by Double Die, Oct 11, 2018.

  1. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    Going through a roll of really sweet 1961 D LMC's and ran across 5 with this tumor in and under the N of UNITED. First thing that came to mind was a chip or a crack, but this don't look like no chip or crack that I've seen.

    Second thing I thought of was a clash, but there's no other signs of clash on either side of the coins. There are others in the roll with the clash, but none are anything like these

    So before I run out of ideas or assume incorrectly, I'm going to ask the masses... What exactly is this???

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  3. atcarroll

    atcarroll Well-Known Member

    Looks like a die scratch, or a die gouge.
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  4. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    Gouge, ok I guess I can see that, but would that be considered a S, M, L, or XL for a gouge? How though did that incorporate itself under (or so it seems) the N?
  5. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    Envision what the die would look like with the N and the gouge. The gouge is above the N, not below it :)
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  6. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Do they all have the filled "R" in liberty? Very cool die chips. It is nice to have chips on one side, but I think having them on both is better..
  7. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    As a matter of fact they do. There were also some clashes and a couple of WDDR-002's that I plan on posting if I can get the focus correct.
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  8. thomas mozzillo

    thomas mozzillo Well-Known Member

    IMO the gouge was on the planchet before the coin was struck. It looks like it's under the N.
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    it depends on your size, I'd guess a medium T-shirt
  10. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Very nice. That is one cool roll of cents to find five of the same error.
    And other stuff too. You must be the first one to search it.
  11. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    I've been sitting on this and other rolls from an online auction for about a year and just now breaking into them. There are 58's thru 62's both mints to look over so there may be more???
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  12. SlipperySocks

    SlipperySocks Well-Known Member

    What are you taking such nice pictures with?
  13. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    Thanks for noticing. I'm using my Samsung WB1100 16.2 MP on macro setting. The lighting is what's tricky deciding on what angles to use to bring out the details.

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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Can't be on the planchet. It is present on 5 different coins.
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  15. KarlB

    KarlB Active Member

    Is there doubling on the U & T of UNITED, also? And possibly the N?
  16. desertgem

    desertgem MODERATOR Senior Errer Collecktor Moderator

    If you have automatic focusing, turn it off as generally cameras try to focus on the larger areas unless you have a spot focus setting you can turn on instead.
  17. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    No, that's just shadowing from the lighting. I gave these a thorough exam once I found the lumps.
  18. KarlB

    KarlB Active Member

    Okay, thanks.
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