Featured So... these exist: Snake Cowboys

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by TIF, Apr 1, 2018.

  1. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    ominus1 - you are always so positive - thank you! I know I am new and not breaking any new ground in any way. But I am appreciative of your support along with so many great people here. The knowledge on this board is mind blowing - I really am very thankful for the patience you all have shown.
     
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  3. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Snake sailor meets snake marine... awesome!!
     
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  4. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Yep - this snake is not a stowaway.. this snake is OWNING this ship!

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    I would give it the right of way on the ancient seas................
     
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  5. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Fun! What city minted that one?
     
  6. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow, @Clavdivs! I haven't seen the type before and it is super cool. Want!!

    The seller's attribution is wrong, as you suspected. Here's an example from ACsearch, Gorny & Mosch auction 147 lot 1826, 7 Feb 2006. It's from Nikomedia.

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    BITHYNIEN
    NIKOMEDIA
    Objekt-Nr.: 1826
    Domitian, 81 - 96 n. Chr.
    AE (8,06 g.), Vs.: AUT DOMITANOS KAISAR SEB GERM, Kopf mit Strahlenkranz n. r. Rs.: H MHTROPOLIS KAI PROTH BEIQUNIAS, Schlange auf einem Schiffsbug n. l. Darüber Stadtmonogramme. RPC 660. Dunkelgrüne Patina, ss
    Das Reversbild bezieht sich auf die Ankunft des Asklepioskultes in der Stadt. Der Gott "reiste" in Form einer großen Schlange, die am auserwählten Ort an Land kroch. Ähnlich ist die Ankunft des Gottes in Rom auf antoninischen Medaillons dargestellt.
    Estimation: € 120,00 (didn't sell... but only because I wasn't collecting ancient coins that long ago :D)

    It's the only one in ACsearch but there is a similar coin for Antoninus Pius found on asiaminorcoins.com:

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    You might be able to find entries in old public domain reference books. Verifying the obverse for your coin might be challenging.
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    The G&M Domitian shown in the previous post has an error in the obverse legend. They left out the I after T in Domitian's name but it is clearly visible on the coin.

    Here's what I can reasonably discern on your coin. It must be Domitian. Other emperor names which would end in "TIANOΣ" are Pacatian (super rare and no provincials that I know of), the usurper Domitius Domitianus (coins issued only by Alexandria?), and Domitian (provincial coins only from Alexandria and Bosporus?).

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    (Domi)tian Caesar Augustus

    Metropolis
     
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  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Good detective work, but the reverse legend "Η ΜΗΤΡΟΠΟΛ ..." can indicate any of many cities, not just the city of Metropolis, for it's a title and not just the name of a specific city.
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Marcus Antonius  2.jpg
    MARCUS ANTONIUS
    Ionia Silver Cistophoric Tetradrachm
    OBVERSE: M ANTONIVS IMP COS DESIG ITER ET TERT, head of Antony right, wreathed in ivy, lituus below, all within wreath of ivy and grapes
    REVERSE: III VIR R P C, bust of Octavia right on cista flanked by snakes
    Ephesus 39 BC
    11.8gm, 26mm
    RPC I 2201, Sydenham 1197, Sear 262
    Augustus 1.jpg
    AUGUSTUS
    AR Quinarius
    OBVERSE: IMP VII CAESAR - Bare head right
    REVERSE: ASIA RECEPTA - Victory standing left on cippus, holding wreath and palm, snake on either side
    Uncertain Italian Mint 29-27 BC
    1.7g, 13mm
    RIC 276, S 1568
    Diadumenian 4.jpg
    DIADUMENIAN
    Assarion
    OBVERSE: M OPPLLIOC ANTWNEINO/C
    Bare headed and draped bust right – seen from behind
    REVERSE: MARKIANO-POLEITWN
    Aesklepios staff, with serpent entwining
    Struck at Markianopolis, Moesia Inferior, 218 AD
    3.07, 17mm
    Varbanov 1354
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    ELAGABALUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES ANTONINVS AVG, radiate draped bust right
    REVERSE: SALVS ANTONINI AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent from patera
    Struck at Rome, 219 AD
    3.28g, 18mm
    RIC 137
    M Volteius.jpg
    M. VOLTEIUS M.F. ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS VOLTEIA
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Bacchus or Liber right, wreathed with ivy
    REVERSE: Ceres holding two torches, in biga of serpents right. Symbol in left field (double headed axe)
    Rome 76BC
    3.75g, 18mm
    Volteia 3; Cr385/3; Sear 314
    L ROSCIUS FABATUS a.jpg
    L ROSCIUS FABATUS ROMAN REPUBLIC; GENS ROSCIA
    AR Serrate Denarius
    OBVERSE: Head of Juno Sospita in goat skin, L ROSCI below, Jug to left
    REVERSE: Girl standing right feeding serpent before, Unknown control mark (?) to left, FABATI in ex.
    Rome 59 BC
    3.7g, 18mm
    Cr 412/1; Syd 915
    Claudius 3a.jpg
    CLAUDIUS
    AR Denarius
    OBVERSE: TI CLAVD CAESAR AVG P M TR P VI IMP XI, laureate head right
    REVERSE: PACI AVGVSTAE, Pax-Nemesis advancing right, drawing out fold of robe at neck, holding caduceus above serpent preceding her
    Struck at Rome, 46/7AD
    3.6g, 19mm
    RIC39, BMC40
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    MACRINUS
    Pentassarion AE28
    OBVERSE: AVT K OPEL CEVH MAKREINOC K M OPEL ANTWNEINOC - confronted busts
    REVERSE: VP PONTIAN-OV MARKIANO/ POLIT, Coiled serpent with radiate head
    Struck at Markianopolis, Moesia Inferior, Magistrate Pontianus; 217 - 218 AD
    12.6g, 28mm
    Hr & J (2012) 6.24.22.6
     
  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I agree. That's why I think it would be worthwhile to pore through various reference books. Maybe he can find a die-matched coin on an old plate, nailing down the ID without a question mark.
     
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  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    O... it lQQked like a Thomas Crapper invention to me :p
     
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  12. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    Welcome back TIF It is so very good to hear from you again. Antoninus Pius Diobol 144-145 A.D. Obv head right laureate Rv. Agathodaemon standing erect right Emmett 1736 var 10.16 grms 23 mm alexpiusd3.JPG
     
  13. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    Eco-friendly tailpipe emissions!
     
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  14. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..i want one o does.:) kool coin!
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I'm actually on the hunt for a better example. If I find one I could let you know to see if you want to buy this example from me.
     
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  16. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..O i do Bing...idk if i could afford it tho...and at my age, i don't know if we'd have time enough for me to buy it on time...but yeah, keep me in mind, thanks :)
     
  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    A Volteius serpent biga has been on my since I first put pen to paper for the Unusual Modes of Transportation set :D. Early this year I found one with good centering, only moderate wear, dark toning, and reasonable price :). Apparently I never posted it, in part because I wasn't entirely happy with the pictures. I need to retrieve it from the bank and reshoot.

    VolteiusDenarius-SerpentBiga.jpg
     
  18. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    That's a beauty @TIF and the condition I'm looking to buy. I've been looking through all the control symbols available. Some are really interesting.
     
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  19. Thesymbolteam

    Thesymbolteam Member

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    Caracalla - Alexanrdia - Egyiptom
    9,53 g
    21,5-23 mm
     
  20. Thesymbolteam

    Thesymbolteam Member

    Sorry! Correction: ALEXANDRIA - EGYPT
     
  21. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Yummy!
     
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