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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2074754, member: 27832"]I... I think I like this.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've been beating the drum about fakes on eBay, and I've said several times that eBay did not require me to return counterfeits to their sellers. Here's the official policy:</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html" rel="nofollow">eBay Money Back Guarantee</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In my experience(s), the part about "ensure the proper disposal of the item" was quite minimal. I said that the coins were counterfeit, giving details about the signs that marked them as not genuine, and eBay took me at my word. They didn't require me to return the items -- not to the seller, not to eBay itself.</p><p><br /></p><p>This works out well for honest and knowledgeable buyers, but what if a buyer is wrong, or dishonest? A seller could lose a perfectly legitimate coin, with no recourse.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't know how eBay handles a "he said/she said" situation. In my cases, I'm not sure the sellers involved put up much of a fight; in once case, I know that a number of buyers filed complaints about him at the same time.</p><p><br /></p><p>The solution that eBay has offered [USER=56842]@Dougmeister[/USER] seems like a step forward. I'm curious as to how they define "expert"; Doug, please share details about that as you can.</p><p><br /></p><p>If eBay starts requiring paperwork and "expert opinions" to deal with counterfeits, it raises the barrier for us to do as Doug did -- buying a coin with the expectation that we'll get our money back and take a counterfeit off the market -- but I'm not sure that's a problem. I'm willing to tolerate a higher bar for these claims, if it prevents abuse of legitimate sellers.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks, Doug, for keeping us posted![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2074754, member: 27832"]I... I think I like this. I've been beating the drum about fakes on eBay, and I've said several times that eBay did not require me to return counterfeits to their sellers. Here's the official policy: [URL='http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/money-back-guarantee.html']eBay Money Back Guarantee[/URL] In my experience(s), the part about "ensure the proper disposal of the item" was quite minimal. I said that the coins were counterfeit, giving details about the signs that marked them as not genuine, and eBay took me at my word. They didn't require me to return the items -- not to the seller, not to eBay itself. This works out well for honest and knowledgeable buyers, but what if a buyer is wrong, or dishonest? A seller could lose a perfectly legitimate coin, with no recourse. I don't know how eBay handles a "he said/she said" situation. In my cases, I'm not sure the sellers involved put up much of a fight; in once case, I know that a number of buyers filed complaints about him at the same time. The solution that eBay has offered [USER=56842]@Dougmeister[/USER] seems like a step forward. I'm curious as to how they define "expert"; Doug, please share details about that as you can. If eBay starts requiring paperwork and "expert opinions" to deal with counterfeits, it raises the barrier for us to do as Doug did -- buying a coin with the expectation that we'll get our money back and take a counterfeit off the market -- but I'm not sure that's a problem. I'm willing to tolerate a higher bar for these claims, if it prevents abuse of legitimate sellers. Thanks, Doug, for keeping us posted![/QUOTE]
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