So someone educate me how TPGs decide sliders for wear?

Look at this one. Coin is awesome, probably a weak strike. edited How do TPGs decide between what is wear (AU58) vs a weak strike 64 ?

AI keeps sending me suggestions because now I own a couple of these 1-C Vams, none of them attributed yet, which is funny. And no, not this same one.

 

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I think it may how they feel that day, if things aren't going well, it will be 58 and so on and so forth.

 

A lot of it has to do with the luster. If the luster is full and unbroken in the fields (as your coin shows) and on the high points (as your coin shows especially on the cheek), then there is no wear.

 

I think of coin graders as being MLB umpires. 60 to 80 percent of the time they are consistent and may have one or two questionable calls in a game. Then every once in awhile you will see an ump shrink the strike zone to the size of a loaf of bread, or call ANY pitch on the inside a strike.
I count on the services to do the heavy lifting when it comes to authentification, but decide for myself the balls & strikes. James

 

They do their best. They have good and bad days just as we do and being human, they are not perfect. They also look at many coins, it’s their job, so experience is on their side.

 

I agree that that looks like a weak strike, I would imagine that the coin has some light parallel lines in the luster. Is this a coin that you sent off for grading?

 

Well said.

 

I hear what you are saying, but if this presented itself raw and ungraded, it would be very difficult for me to buy it for 64 money.

 

No, I saw it for sale. Artificial intelligence keeps presenting coins I already own. Also, if I have questions about a particular VAM, I will search attributed VAMS to clarify pickup points that are often not mentioned or photographed in the VAM WORLD documentation. It is a great way to learn.

 

My bad, I automatically thought this was the coin that you said in my other thread graded AU58. The coin above I would suspect has full luster on the high points despite the weak strike. Let me go grab another cup of coffee..

 

Wouldn't the grading process be looked at by more than one grader? Then come to a grade conclusion?

 

This was the subject of a fascinating debate over on the PCGS Forums between some real heavy-hitters....ex-graders...bigtime collectors...etc.

 

I don't own it. I used it because it's a confusing example. So you think it's better than 64? The lack of hair detail is what is confusing me. The reverse is fine.

 

Yes, that is a common. This is one of the reasons TPGs exist.

But, learning the difference helps build your confidence - and at the very least, if you look at a TPG graded 64, you can understand why it is 64 and not 58+.

 

What's even more difficult/confusing is the combination of circulation and weak strike. So for example you might see an XF45 that you'd swear is no better than VF30 (just making it up, no specific example in mind). Sometimes it's hard to tell if they really know what they're doing or just screwed up.

 

I would certainly hope so.

 

? I'm not taking a shot at this, no interest in it, nor do I think it would or should grade higher. The entire point of the entire thread is how it got graded that high to begin with? It's nothing more than a question about determining wear vs a weak strike.

 

You have an opinion.

My only commentary would be:

you have a life of learning to accomplish in the Field of numismatic Professional Grading, before attempting to conclude the question is nothing more than determining wear vs. weak strike.

That evaluation, on a professional level, begins with examining the piece in hand, while having in-depth knowledge of the series/date/equipment used for the particular piece, and personal experience in having viewed in-hand hundreds to thousands of similar pieces.

Then, maybe, just maybe, an opinion would actually have a basis in Logic and ability that may matter to the Reader of any personal commentary concerning the piece.

Otherwise, you are just another body on the first day of Boot Camp, wondering what the hell just happened.

Nobody cares.