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Message:: [QUOTE="Morgandude11, post: 1654911, member: 37839"]Couldn't have said it myself any better.   People often assume that coin doctors are a bunch of sleaze bags operating in the back of a coin shop with a bunsen burner, and a few potatoes.  No, they have gotten extremely good, and can fool TPGs pretty well nowadays. As has been said before, toning is a chemical reaction, and can easily be recreated.   Are all toned coins AT?  Of course not.  However, there are a lot of them out there that are good enough to fool anyone connected with the hobby--it is a big industry, and given the lucrative markup for acceptable toned coins, quite lucrative.  So, the doctors have gotten really skillful in "accelerating" the toning process artificially--what would have taken a century now can be done in days or hours.  In the Orlando area, there are a few well-know coin doctors, who make the rounds of less scrupulous dealers,and do their magic.  As a toned coin collector, it makes life really difficult for me, as I want honestly toned coins, and nowadays, if the TPGs can be regularly fooled, it makes it hard to find legitimacy in the toned coin market.  I agree that the "market acceptability" of toned coins is set by the TPG, and that is the best that can be done as of right now, unless someone gets more skillful at detection, with digital analysis.  By the way, looking at both pictures, I would have called BOTH of those coins AT.[/QUOTE]