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<p>[QUOTE="Kentucky, post: 24663075, member: 33176"]In another thread, we were talking about using sodium bicarbonate (bicarbonate of soda) solution for neutralizing eZest (which contains sulfuric acid). I thought I remembered playing around with it, so I repeated it and took photos. I took two cent coins and put them in a 5-10% sodium bicarbonate solution, and as an afterthought, put two more cents and a token in a 5-10% sodium sulfite solution. After 1 1/2 days, here are the solutions:</p><p><img src="https://attachment.outlook.live.net/owa/MSA%3Acarlewright%40hotmail.com/service.svc/s/GetAttachmentThumbnail?id=AQMkADAwATExAGE2Ny00YzQyLTNlNjUtMDACLTAwCgBGAAADt8eOXcjiiUS%2B09E9OY%2FxtQcAWeJF65Nno0Oa1fFTmZRo%2BgAAAgEMAAAAVfSyueXS%2B0Gp6AA7610izgAGC8IzjwAAAAESABAAcLF%2FgP6Woke8VvK%2BwfHhZQ%3D%3D&thumbnailType=2&isc=1&token=eyJhbGciOiJSUzI1NiIsImtpZCI6IjczRkI5QkJFRjYzNjc4RDRGN0U4NEI0NDBCQUJCMTJBMzM5RDlGOTgiLCJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJ4NXQiOiJjX3VidnZZMmVOVDM2RXRFQzZ1eEtqT2RuNWcifQ.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.X8oztJd15Vgj2wZISAkiOZnNpSuq1xswY6fODPw8gYBWVkojCNhCjMw7vYkD5ii0kBExHj6TPzbnCd9FAmJe1PV_hGDfdQPMB3IPWyUvhTMQzlaTj-h9wKpQ7k9uHz1DA_Sj2iod0Dnrcu6C_KQqU12T1FswjsiTa0xDW8gHnruYBFZD7_O_l_scMrsQ08isYIpqvbKFxjHp5sPkWB8KRvJQAGFWNcxahp_c0coBzeClpA3JhXYbrNnNTQcbjq2a9GcCIcQb-Z36p6k43Ixl2ciNupPvV4j7b5xJcH8h0Q590fYUPI5MWpOIpNjh_z3BlQzfIsP8UZqfV4otsNHhmw&X-OWA-CANARY=TRb6jrPrMUKFL8qew7T2nmC8uevgktsY4dMuJXqLUpjOmYQzwlJguLcXkht342LSJicNrgSWtr0.&owa=outlook.live.com&scriptVer=20230721005.10&animation=true" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The two cents in the sodium bicarbonate solution had caused it to turn a blue color signifying the reaction of the copper to form a copper salt. Although the sodium sulfite solution remained colorless, there is some weird floating debris...</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the two cents in the sodium bicarbonate solution - before-after</p><p><img 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The only thing I am fairly sure of is a short immersion or dip or rinse with either of these solutions is probably not harmful, however lengthy soaking seems not to be a good thing![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Kentucky, post: 24663075, member: 33176"]In another thread, we were talking about using sodium bicarbonate (bicarbonate of soda) solution for neutralizing eZest (which contains sulfuric acid). I thought I remembered playing around with it, so I repeated it and took photos. I took two cent coins and put them in a 5-10% sodium bicarbonate solution, and as an afterthought, put two more cents and a token in a 5-10% sodium sulfite solution. 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Although the sodium sulfite solution remained colorless, there is some weird floating debris... Here are the two cents in the sodium bicarbonate solution - before-after 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And from the sodium sulfite solution in similar fashion... 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I am an organic chemist and can't reeeeeeeeeeeally explain this, but look at the results! I gotta think about this. The only thing I am fairly sure of is a short immersion or dip or rinse with either of these solutions is probably not harmful, however lengthy soaking seems not to be a good thing![/QUOTE]
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