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Message:: [QUOTE="Caleb, post: 1389901, member: 32795"] OK GDJMSP, I will open school up for one more day for you. Please try to keep up, I realize that some of this might be over your head but please focus. I will try to go slow so that even you can understand. My dad has always told me never to get into arguments with old men and fools so I will not argue with you. You have stated several points which are erroneous at best. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> PCGS knows their own designations that they use for coins, it is a shame that you haven’t figured it out yet! One more time, on coins from Special Mint Set(s) “SP” stands for “Special Strikes”. I’m not sure how much more clearer this can be stated. The SP or Specimen you sited from the PCGS “Glossary” page has been there for many years. Maybe you should read what “Specimen” means, I will quote it here for you: I hope you are not trying to say that the Special Mint Sets were produced between the years 1792 – 1816? In July 2009 PCGS changed the way they designated coins from Special Mint Set(s) from MS to SP. Coins graded prior to July received the MS designation, after got the SP designation. The photos you posted only means that they were graded before the change (I hope you can now understand that). If you wanted to know what the new designation at PCGS stood for, maybe you should have asked PCGS yourself, we did. When PCGS made the change from MS to SP, my dad had an order in at PCGS and below are the email from him to the grader’s supervisor at PCGS who clearly states that SP will stand for “Special Strikes”. I hope your reading comprehension can fathom this: It is obvious that your knowledge in this area of the hobby is “lacking” to say the least. There is no need for me to ask Mr. David Lange why NGC labeled the coin in question, 1964 Specimen. I could explain the reasoning to you but I would be wasting my time, you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink. There were no Special Mint Set(s) produced by the US Mint in 1964, they do not exist. It all started as hype is a Stack’s catalog in 1993 and PCGS mis attributing them in 1996 without any bases for merit. I could elaborate on this point further but there is no need to continuously type over your head. Maybe seeing would be believing, I draw your attention to any 1965 Special Mint sets, look at the printed card inside from the Director of the US Mint, you will clearly see that the card states that these coins (the one’s included within the 1965 Special Mint Sets) are the first.<img src="http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy11/sid_ice_age/Pets/1965SMScard2.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />Here ends your finial lesson, school is out:devil:[/QUOTE]

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