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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1389512, member: 112&quot;]<span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Uh, no. It doesn&#039;t. It stands for the same thing that it stands for at NGC, Specimen Strike. But you don&#039;t have to believe me, you can look for yourself.</font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"></font></span><font size="1"><span style="color: #505151"><font face="Helvetica"><b>SP</b></font></span></font><span style="color: #505151"><font size="1">[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Short for Specimen Strike.[/FONT]<font face="Verdana"></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #505151"><font size="1"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana">Or you can look on the PCGS web site - </font></span><a href="http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/S" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/S" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/S</a></p><p><a href="http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/S" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/S" rel="nofollow"></a><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"></font></span><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"></font></span></p><p><span style="color: #222222"><font face="Verdana"><br /></font></span></p><p>You&#039;re sure you&#039;re done with the lesson ? </p><p><br /></p><p>So if that&#039;s what PCGS does, then what&#039;s this ?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]165814.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>And what&#039;s this one ?</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]165817.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Apparently PCGS doesn&#039;t know their own designations. At least, not as you know them. I can find a lot more examples in all denominations in all denominations if you want. Some will be designated MS and some will be designated SP -&nbsp; if you&#039;re still not done with the lesson that is. Funny thing is though, they will all also have the SMS designation right there on the slab on both kinds.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Ahhhh good, I like facts. Of course it usually helps to get them straight. And if you check the NGC web site you&#039;ll find this page - <a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH" rel="nofollow">http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH</a></p><p><a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p><a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27WH" rel="nofollow">N</a>ow what do you suppose those 1964 Kennedy half dollars that are designated as SP actually are if they are not &#039;64 SMS coins ? They aren&#039;t MS, they aren&#039;t PF. No, that SP is the designation that NGC assigs to the supposedly 1964 SMS coins. NGC has only graded 6 of them. You see they have the same page for the other denominations too, like cents - <a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=22LT" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=22LT" rel="nofollow">http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=22LT</a>&nbsp; , they&#039;ve graded 11 of those,&nbsp; and quarters - <a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27J8" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27J8" rel="nofollow">http://www.ngccoin.com/NGCCoinExplorer/CoinDetail.aspx?UCID=27J8</a>&nbsp; , they&#039;ve only graded 1 of those.</p><p><br /></p><p>So if these are not the supposedly 1964 SMS coins, then what are they ? What other reason would NGC have for assigning the SP designation ? Was there some special Specimen set minted in 1964 that you know of ? </p><p><br /></p><p>No, I submit to you that if you want to get your &quot;facts&quot; straight that the 1964 coins that NGC designates as SP are the very same 1964 coins that PCGS has designated as SMS. And that is why the auction description lists them as such.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course you can write to David Lange and ask him if you want. But I already know what he&#039;ll tell you. He&#039;ll tell you exactly what I have said.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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