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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 1388807, member: 112&quot;]The coins designated as &#039;64 SMS are like many other things in this hobby, we simply don&#039;t know and will probably never know, for certain, if they are indeed SMS. But NGC and PCGS both have designated them as such. </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=346&amp;lotNo=7926" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=346&amp;lotNo=7926" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=346&amp;lotNo=7926</a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=346&amp;lotNo=7926" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=346&amp;lotNo=7926" rel="nofollow"><br /></a></p><p><a href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1124&amp;lotNo=2929" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1124&amp;lotNo=2929" rel="nofollow">http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1124&amp;lotNo=2929</a></p><p><br /></p><p>They base that designation on differences that the coins have from other coins dated &#039;64 and similarities the coins have to the &#039;65 SMS coins. There is little doubt the coins are different, they are their own evidence of that. But are they really SMS ? We don&#039;t know, either way.</p><p><br /></p><p>edit - one thing that might be worth noting. NGC and PCGS both have mistakenly designated a few &#039;65-&#039;67 coins as being SMS coins, when they were not SMS coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Once the coins are removed from the original SMS holders, it can often be all but impossible to determine if they are, or are not, really SMS. The exceptions are the cameo examples.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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