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<p>[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1172910, member: 26030"]I just bought this 1851 One Dollar Gold coin -- a type coin I have wanted for my collection for about 20 years! </p><p><br /></p><p>The Type 1 Liberty Head One Dollar Gold coin is the smallest diameter coin ever struck for circulation in the U.S. -- checking in at 13.0 mm. The photo below shows the actual size of this tiny coin, alongside a Rosevelt dime that has a diameter of 17.9 mm.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]122188.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p>Could you imagine a pocketful of these small gold coins? Trying to pick them out of your pocket lint? Or the sound they might make if a bunch of them fell on the floor?</p><p><br /></p><p>I was trying to find a good example of a One Dollar Gold coin from a batch of raw and third party graded coins at my local dealer this afternoon. I stumbled across this raw Liberty Head Gold Dollar that had a ton of luster and looked very clean, tagged at $400. The only other Dollar Gold coin I liked in the batch was an NGC MS63 for $1200, but that was too much money for a coin that is actually hard to see! And honestly the little raw coin I ended up buying looked just as nice to my eye. I think it's possible the raw coin I purchased might only grade AU even though the coin appears to have a lot of luster; unless some of the lack of detail is from a weak stike (note the weak 1 in 1851). However I think it's pretty safe to say this is probably at least AU55 to 58 -- although I am amazed at how clean the fields are. It's hard to find a mark on this coin.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]122059.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p>The dealer initially wanted $400 for this coin as he thought it was at least MS60, but I was able to negotiate it down to $275, when I convinced him that it might only grade AU. (It helps that I do a lot of business there.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The price break between AU coins and higher grade MS coins is pretty steep with this series -- with AU's going in the $200's, MS60 around $350, MS61-62 in the $600's, MS63 in the $1200's. So for those interested in buying one of these, look for a nice lusterous AU coin (it's a much better deal). </p><p><br /></p><p>This is a very short-run series, as the Type 1 (Liberty Head) Gold Dollar variety was minted for only 6 years from 1849 to 1854. The Type 2 and Type 3 (Indian Princess) Gold Dollar designs that followed were the exact same weight, but made thinner with an increased diameter of 2 mm for a total new diameter of 15mm (a 15% increase in diameter over Type 1). Minting of these tiny One Dollar denomination Gold coins was discontinued in 1889 after only 40 years of production -- and twelve years after the popular Morgan Silver Dollar began production. </p><p><br /></p><p>These One Dollar Gold coins contain 1.5 grams (or 1/20th of an ounce) of gold. So the gold melt value (at today's spot) of one of these Dollar Gold coins is about $77. It's interesting to note that the melt value of a Morgan Silver Dollar (the other $1 coin circulating in the late 1880's) is around $30. In other words, today's melt value of an 1889 One Dollar <b>Gold </b>coin is <u>2.7 times more</u> than today's melt value of an 1889 One Dollar <b>Silver</b> coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH]122189.vB[/ATTACH]</p><p> So based on the Gold and Silver content on the two $1 coins way back in 1889 -- a dollars worth of Silver was 0.77 ounces (the Morgan Dollar content), while a dollars worth of Gold was 0.05 ounces (the Gold Dollar content). So in 1889, the Gold/Silver ratio was roughly 15 to 1. Fast forward to 2011, and the Gold/Silver ratio is closer to 39 to 1. That is, over the past 100 years, Gold has increased in value about 2.7x more than Silver. I wonder if this might imply that Silver is undervalued at today's prices?</p><p><br /></p><p>In any case, I thought I would share my little adventure today![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="WingedLiberty, post: 1172910, member: 26030"]I just bought this 1851 One Dollar Gold coin -- a type coin I have wanted for my collection for about 20 years! The Type 1 Liberty Head One Dollar Gold coin is the smallest diameter coin ever struck for circulation in the U.S. -- checking in at 13.0 mm. The photo below shows the actual size of this tiny coin, alongside a Rosevelt dime that has a diameter of 17.9 mm. [ATTACH]122188.vB[/ATTACH] Could you imagine a pocketful of these small gold coins? Trying to pick them out of your pocket lint? Or the sound they might make if a bunch of them fell on the floor? I was trying to find a good example of a One Dollar Gold coin from a batch of raw and third party graded coins at my local dealer this afternoon. I stumbled across this raw Liberty Head Gold Dollar that had a ton of luster and looked very clean, tagged at $400. The only other Dollar Gold coin I liked in the batch was an NGC MS63 for $1200, but that was too much money for a coin that is actually hard to see! And honestly the little raw coin I ended up buying looked just as nice to my eye. I think it's possible the raw coin I purchased might only grade AU even though the coin appears to have a lot of luster; unless some of the lack of detail is from a weak stike (note the weak 1 in 1851). However I think it's pretty safe to say this is probably at least AU55 to 58 -- although I am amazed at how clean the fields are. It's hard to find a mark on this coin. [ATTACH]122059.vB[/ATTACH] The dealer initially wanted $400 for this coin as he thought it was at least MS60, but I was able to negotiate it down to $275, when I convinced him that it might only grade AU. (It helps that I do a lot of business there.) The price break between AU coins and higher grade MS coins is pretty steep with this series -- with AU's going in the $200's, MS60 around $350, MS61-62 in the $600's, MS63 in the $1200's. So for those interested in buying one of these, look for a nice lusterous AU coin (it's a much better deal). This is a very short-run series, as the Type 1 (Liberty Head) Gold Dollar variety was minted for only 6 years from 1849 to 1854. The Type 2 and Type 3 (Indian Princess) Gold Dollar designs that followed were the exact same weight, but made thinner with an increased diameter of 2 mm for a total new diameter of 15mm (a 15% increase in diameter over Type 1). Minting of these tiny One Dollar denomination Gold coins was discontinued in 1889 after only 40 years of production -- and twelve years after the popular Morgan Silver Dollar began production. These One Dollar Gold coins contain 1.5 grams (or 1/20th of an ounce) of gold. So the gold melt value (at today's spot) of one of these Dollar Gold coins is about $77. It's interesting to note that the melt value of a Morgan Silver Dollar (the other $1 coin circulating in the late 1880's) is around $30. In other words, today's melt value of an 1889 One Dollar [B]Gold [/B]coin is [U]2.7 times more[/U] than today's melt value of an 1889 One Dollar [B]Silver[/B] coin. [ATTACH]122189.vB[/ATTACH] So based on the Gold and Silver content on the two $1 coins way back in 1889 -- a dollars worth of Silver was 0.77 ounces (the Morgan Dollar content), while a dollars worth of Gold was 0.05 ounces (the Gold Dollar content). So in 1889, the Gold/Silver ratio was roughly 15 to 1. Fast forward to 2011, and the Gold/Silver ratio is closer to 39 to 1. That is, over the past 100 years, Gold has increased in value about 2.7x more than Silver. I wonder if this might imply that Silver is undervalued at today's prices? In any case, I thought I would share my little adventure today![/QUOTE]
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