Small Date 1982 Zinc Lincoln Cent Wexler DDR-001

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  1. Rick Stachowski

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  3. Rick Stachowski

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    Here's a question I asked myself when matching images to a variety site .
    I don't know why John just didn't take his image like this one, his images are so over exposed .

    SingleShot0000-00.jpg

    It looks a lot better and you can see the DDR, much better .
     
  4. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I see no indications of a DDR
     
  5. MontCollector

    MontCollector Well-Known Member

    Looks like there is a split in the serif of the "I" and the bottom of the "E" in America. Possibly on the "R" as well. The "CA" is hard to tell. The cross bar on the "A" looks interesting. The bottom of the "C" looks split as well.

    The split serifs are enough to say it is a DDO IMO.

    Nice find!
     
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  6. non_cents

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    It doesn't even share the same die markers as the DDR (not DDO as you mention). http://doubleddie.com/828781.html The OP tries to address this just by saying that its an earlier die state but I'm personally seeing lighting issues giving the impression of doubling rather than an actual DDR. Just my opinion.
     
  7. Rick Stachowski

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    And an opinion it is ...
    One day you'll learn about Die States and class of doubling ( class 6 )
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

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    Wexler doesn't list the class of doubling, or die state, but I've seen enough to know it's, class 6 . His is a later die state too ...
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

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    Here's an image of liberty, which John talks about a die scratch runs north from the upper left of the I in LIBERTY. Hell, there's lots of die scratches .
    56a.jpg
    Now, here's mine . Very light die scratches .
    SingleShot0001-h.jpg
     
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  10. MontCollector

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    I agree about die states. The 1959D 1MM-005 RPM (Variety Vista Number) I found CRH is one of those unmistakable RPM's. However mine does not show all the die markers either. I just don't know if it is an earlier or later die state than the one shown.
     
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  11. Rick Stachowski

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    Just look at this full shot of the Reverse .
    lots of doubling going on .
    SingleShot0007-l.jpg
    Just look at AMERICA . Wexler description for AMERICA is:
    Separation lines are visible on AMERICA .
    If someone can't see that, then they need to get some new glasses ...
     
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  12. MontCollector

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    While I don't doubt it is a DDR.

    I was comparing the two pictures in the reply I quoted. The one Wexler shows appears to show stronger serifs in Liberty. Especially in the bottom of the "B". Your coin looks like the serifs are flatter or nonexistent. It could be just the lighting and angle of photo though. What do you think?
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

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    Nothing going on with LIBERTY, other then die scratches ...
    But if you look at the " I " in LIBERTY, on wexler image, there's a big chip in the center of the " I " . My only has a little chip .
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  14. MontCollector

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    I didn't mean there was anything going on in Liberty. I meant the actual letters look like they have stronger serifs than yours do. This makes me think yours would be a later die state as the serifs look to be more polished out on yours. If it is the same die. Am I wrong in thinking this?

    I was attributing the marks on Wexler's "I" and your "R" to PMD. Notice on Wexler's photo there is rim damage going in same direction as the mark on the "I"? Whatever caused the rim damage probably nicked the "I" too.
     
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  15. Rick Stachowski

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    What your seeing there is wexler image is more + plumb then mine .
    That's why the serif shows up better ..
    If I bring it more plumb, now you can see my serif are stronger .
    SingleShot0024-x.jpg
     
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  17. MatrixMP-9

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    When reading and trying to look at the Wexler description, to me (below novice) makes it even harder to determine on my own because I think I "see" that more often. As always, its trying to determine what I want to see and what is really there. The pictures I posted seem to match some of the description Wexler gives. I love this site for the hard truth without sugar coating...do you see the DD description in these pictures? I see lots of split serifs if I understand it correctly?
     

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  18. Boxxxy559

    Boxxxy559 Here To Stay N Hear They Say.

    What does the reverse side look like on $0.01 the one on my date is double stamp but other than that the more severe is on the reverse
     
  19. Boxxxy559

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    Mine shows one in with another overlapping it Arn 1 and cents
     
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  21. Boxxxy559

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    So? Error or no error?
     
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