Slabing standards

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bmagold, Sep 4, 2019.

  1. Bmagold

    Bmagold Member

    I am curious, would it bother any one if you sent your submissions in and when you got them back a number of them were slabbed crooked or worse slabbed rever
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  3. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    One of the really annoying things about some slabs is when the rotates in the holder. This often happens small, thin coins, like gold dollars and half dimes, but I do have one large cent does “the twist.”

    Another disappoint is the so-called “mechanical errors” when coin is labeled incorrectly. I have seen missed mint marks, which effected the value of the pieces and errors like labeling a 1913 Type 1 Buffalo Nickel as a Type 2.

    I have seen slabs with reverse shown on the top side, but those where almost always intentional from what I have seen.
  4. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Don't bother me a mite''''''
  5. green18

    green18 Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Then again. I don't send stuff in to be graded. I'll buy graded, but such rotation bothers me not.......
  6. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Slabing ? Rever ?

    Buy the Cion not the Slabe.
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    What was slabbed "reverse"?

    When it comes to world coins, the TPGS are wildly inconsistent with what they slab as obverse vs. reverse. Even when the references are in agreement, they often slab coins wrong-side-out.... and that drives me crazy.
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  8. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    I rever slabe my coins.
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  9. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Some coins are slabbed with the reverse facing the front because the person who submitted the coin requested it (usually due to that side being more eye appealing, like when it has nice toning).

    As others have mentioned, world coins are a different case. There might not be a consensus obverse vs reverse or the people slabbing them might just not know (especially when the words on the coins are in Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Arabic/etc...).

    In terms of coins that have rotated in the holder or were placed at an angle, that can be a fault of the holder design (like old PCGS rattlers) or human error. Some of these can be fixed easily (rattlers can be tapped on the edge in order to move the coin back into a normal orientation). Others might require sending back in; depending on how bad it is, the grading company could offer to fix it for free (you can also take a photo and contact customer service to see if it is something that they would fix for free).
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  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes? Supporter

    Sometimes the TPG just has no idea which side is the obverse.

    I like to think its because the TPG is confused.

    Sometimes. however, it's because they're just clueless.
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  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It would drive me nuts to have coins that have rotated in the slab.
  12. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    That's what you get when someone making $15\hr is putting valuable coins in plastic retainers and then sonically sealing them.

    Kind of scary, huh.
  13. Bmagold

    Bmagold Member

    I have seen a little of each of the things you stated but you are correct about the world wide coins being slabbed reverse first but when I was sent back 2 -15+ coin submissions I had 90% of my coins slabbed reverse first. I thought this is a joke. I called them and bitched I said you call it O C D or call it what you want but I will lose sleep over this. I said you can go through my entire collection and not find 1 time reverse 1st and sent back 31 coins to be corrected at their expense and they were.
  14. Bmagold

    Bmagold Member

    I am a kinda new to the whole slabbing idea but I recognize the importance of the practice as it makes the coins easier to sell and some coins deserve nice presentation as well as solidifying it's value or possibly increasing its value but I thought that these grading companies were able to identify and grade most everything sent to them because that was their job and that is what we pay them to do. For example I have an 1889-D German 5 pf with just 2 varieties with the 2nd listed low 9 witch I have they couldn't make the call. An 1835 British India 1-rupee and did not state which of the 5 it was. Mine was F incused on truncation. Or make the call on 1965 British Churchill crown with 2 varieties listed and I am absolutely certain I have both well the 2nd is a specimen wouldn't make the call. Yet I was still charged for the work I feel incomplete. I also saw a pretty valuable U S early gold coin slabbed where the coin was set crooked as much as 3 o' clock and this coin was 25-30 g's it was a lg date variety a pretty rare coin
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  15. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    I write on the submission form which side I want as the obverse, so that there are no mistakes. I just notate something like "date side obverse".

    I you don't do this with world coins, they will get it wrong sometimes. Before I started doing this, I even had a coin I sent in for a label correction, and when they reholder it with the corrected label, the coin was backwards.
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  16. Johndoe2000$

    Johndoe2000$ Well-Known Member

    No idea, clueless, confused. Do you own any coins graded by the obviously moronic services ??? o_O
    You left off grade manipulation. :stop:
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  18. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Whenever I see a slabbed US coin reverse out, and it's not a state quarter, it always makes me sad for this reason. It seems like whenever that happens, it's on a coin with really nice reverse toning, but either no toning or so so toning on the obverse.

    Other than PCGS rattlers, where the coin rotates in the holder over time, I haven't noticed a ton of coins rotated in the slab. If you have a rattler and want to re-align the coin, you can use an electric toothbrush applied to one corner of the slab to gently shake the coin back into the correct alignment. You might have to play with it a little to figure out which corner to use, but it will work, and doesn't risk damaging the coin or the slab. Alternatively, whacking the edge of slab against the side of a table will also do it, at some risk of damaging the slab.
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  19. Dimedude2

    Dimedude2 Member

    Other than the rattlers, I have had only one slab where there is a very slight movement.
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  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Gold Dollars in old soapbox ANACS holders may rotate.
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  21. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Supporter! Supporter

    If it's a commonwealth coin, the boring Queen side is technically the obverse, but most people want to see the reverse.
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