Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bmagold, Sep 4, 2019.
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Another disappoint is the so-called “mechanical errors” when coin is labeled incorrectly. I have seen missed mint marks, which effected the value of the pieces and errors like labeling a 1913 Type 1 Buffalo Nickel as a Type 2.
I have seen slabs with reverse shown on the top side, but those where almost always intentional from what I have seen.
Buy the Cion not the Slabe.
When it comes to world coins, the TPGS are wildly inconsistent with what they slab as obverse vs. reverse. Even when the references are in agreement, they often slab coins wrong-side-out.... and that drives me crazy.
As others have mentioned, world coins are a different case. There might not be a consensus obverse vs reverse or the people slabbing them might just not know (especially when the words on the coins are in Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Arabic/etc...).
In terms of coins that have rotated in the holder or were placed at an angle, that can be a fault of the holder design (like old PCGS rattlers) or human error. Some of these can be fixed easily (rattlers can be tapped on the edge in order to move the coin back into a normal orientation). Others might require sending back in; depending on how bad it is, the grading company could offer to fix it for free (you can also take a photo and contact customer service to see if it is something that they would fix for free).
I like to think its because the TPG is confused.
Sometimes. however, it's because they're just clueless.
Kind of scary, huh.
I have seen a little of each of the things you stated but you are correct about the world wide coins being slabbed reverse first but when I was sent back 2 -15+ coin submissions I had 90% of my coins slabbed reverse first. I thought this is a joke. I called them and bitched I said you call it O C D or call it what you want but I will lose sleep over this. I said you can go through my entire collection and not find 1 time reverse 1st and sent back 31 coins to be corrected at their expense and they were.
I am a kinda new to the whole slabbing idea but I recognize the importance of the practice as it makes the coins easier to sell and some coins deserve nice presentation as well as solidifying it's value or possibly increasing its value but I thought that these grading companies were able to identify and grade most everything sent to them because that was their job and that is what we pay them to do. For example I have an 1889-D German 5 pf with just 2 varieties with the 2nd listed low 9 witch I have they couldn't make the call. An 1835 British India 1-rupee and did not state which of the 5 it was. Mine was F incused on truncation. Or make the call on 1965 British Churchill crown with 2 varieties listed and I am absolutely certain I have both well the 2nd is a specimen wouldn't make the call. Yet I was still charged for the work I feel incomplete. I also saw a pretty valuable U S early gold coin slabbed where the coin was set crooked as much as 3 o' clock and this coin was 25-30 g's it was a lg date variety a pretty rare coin
I you don't do this with world coins, they will get it wrong sometimes. Before I started doing this, I even had a coin I sent in for a label correction, and when they reholder it with the corrected label, the coin was backwards.
No idea, clueless, confused. Do you own any coins graded by the obviously moronic services ???
You left off grade manipulation.
Whenever I see a slabbed US coin reverse out, and it's not a state quarter, it always makes me sad for this reason. It seems like whenever that happens, it's on a coin with really nice reverse toning, but either no toning or so so toning on the obverse.
Other than PCGS rattlers, where the coin rotates in the holder over time, I haven't noticed a ton of coins rotated in the slab. If you have a rattler and want to re-align the coin, you can use an electric toothbrush applied to one corner of the slab to gently shake the coin back into the correct alignment. You might have to play with it a little to figure out which corner to use, but it will work, and doesn't risk damaging the coin or the slab. Alternatively, whacking the edge of slab against the side of a table will also do it, at some risk of damaging the slab.
Gold Dollars in old soapbox ANACS holders may rotate.
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