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<p>[QUOTE="Ken Dorney, post: 3553538, member: 76086"]Barry. I didn't save the number of the coin I didn't buy but the one I did was 4632713-001. I looked it up on the NGC site and its just a black shadow, not much to see. I did try my best but shooting slabbed coins is a challenge for such novices as I am:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]944476[/ATTACH] </p><p><br /></p><p>And of course my memory after less than 24 hours is not stellar, they were Dupondii and not Asses. Honesty I guess I would have graded both as 'near EF' or something similar. I have no idea what the criteria are for NGC, so perhaps I should not have been negative. Maybe NGC 'Choice VF' is the same as my 'near EF'. We all have our own personal interpretations of grade and appearance. But I suppose of more importance to the discussion is how dealers and collectors interpret the value of the assigned grades. The 'AU' coin was priced exactly twice what the 'Choice VF' was, despite my personal feeling that in the end they were just about the same. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Census data really has little applicability for ancients, other than perhaps collecting data on how often a particular type has come up for sale or auction.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I would have paid $45, sold it for $50, $60 on a good day. But keep in mind someone paid minimum of $20 to slab it. I understand that adds cost for the person who initially slabbed it, but thats not a consideration for me. I dont personally add value for the slab.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>There is much truth in this statement. There are too many factors involved to get a blanket statement with ancients. </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>In many cases yes. But also in many cases with ancients as well. Some people are obsessed with grade, others not. For me if I like the coin I could care less about the grade, technical or otherwise. If is worthy of my attention that is all that matters. And to be honest, I prefer a coin with some 'use' to it. The amount of wear means little compared its historical value. I suppose it one of the reasons that after more than three decades as a dealer I am still just one of the 'bottom feeders'. That's OK, I am comfortable with what and who I am!</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I dont think so (but I could be wrong). Not here. But keep in mind that while CT is the most prolific place to discuss ancients, the majority do not participate (or know of its existence). </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Well, harshly and in all honesty, some people are just sheep. They will go with what others are telling them, despite any outcome. But then again, often some of us see things others do not. This is a rather 'touchy-feely' hobby which is really open to interpretation. </p><p><br /></p><p>Long story short, I dont like slabs myself. It's a personal thing. But I also understand and appreciate why they exit and why people might want them. And even why they might pay more. But personally I dont pay more for a slabbed coin, and in some cases have paid less for them slabbed than if they were raw.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Ken Dorney, post: 3553538, member: 76086"]Barry. I didn't save the number of the coin I didn't buy but the one I did was 4632713-001. I looked it up on the NGC site and its just a black shadow, not much to see. I did try my best but shooting slabbed coins is a challenge for such novices as I am: [ATTACH=full]944476[/ATTACH] And of course my memory after less than 24 hours is not stellar, they were Dupondii and not Asses. Honesty I guess I would have graded both as 'near EF' or something similar. I have no idea what the criteria are for NGC, so perhaps I should not have been negative. Maybe NGC 'Choice VF' is the same as my 'near EF'. We all have our own personal interpretations of grade and appearance. But I suppose of more importance to the discussion is how dealers and collectors interpret the value of the assigned grades. The 'AU' coin was priced exactly twice what the 'Choice VF' was, despite my personal feeling that in the end they were just about the same. Census data really has little applicability for ancients, other than perhaps collecting data on how often a particular type has come up for sale or auction. I would have paid $45, sold it for $50, $60 on a good day. But keep in mind someone paid minimum of $20 to slab it. I understand that adds cost for the person who initially slabbed it, but thats not a consideration for me. I dont personally add value for the slab. There is much truth in this statement. There are too many factors involved to get a blanket statement with ancients. In many cases yes. But also in many cases with ancients as well. Some people are obsessed with grade, others not. For me if I like the coin I could care less about the grade, technical or otherwise. If is worthy of my attention that is all that matters. And to be honest, I prefer a coin with some 'use' to it. The amount of wear means little compared its historical value. I suppose it one of the reasons that after more than three decades as a dealer I am still just one of the 'bottom feeders'. That's OK, I am comfortable with what and who I am! I dont think so (but I could be wrong). Not here. But keep in mind that while CT is the most prolific place to discuss ancients, the majority do not participate (or know of its existence). Well, harshly and in all honesty, some people are just sheep. They will go with what others are telling them, despite any outcome. But then again, often some of us see things others do not. This is a rather 'touchy-feely' hobby which is really open to interpretation. Long story short, I dont like slabs myself. It's a personal thing. But I also understand and appreciate why they exit and why people might want them. And even why they might pay more. But personally I dont pay more for a slabbed coin, and in some cases have paid less for them slabbed than if they were raw.[/QUOTE]
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