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<p>[QUOTE="Sallent, post: 3553161, member: 76194"]Part of the reason I dislike slabbing is what it did to the prices of American coins. Before slab companies were a thing, you look at US catalogs and coins we're priced in several categories: Good, Fine, Very Fine, About Uncirculated, and Uncirculated. The price gaps between them weren't really that exorbitant either. Then if you look at catalogs after slabbing came in, all of the sudden there is a huge spike at the higher end, and a coin that would have sold for $70 in "Uncirculated Condition" might all of the sudden be worth $75 as MS-64, $120 as MS-65, $200 as MS-66, $350 as MS-67. And likewise I think it's depressed the other categories. Now if a coin is not worth slabbing, well, it's not really worth collecting. Especially when most collectors today will not buy a coin unless it's in a slab.</p><p><br /></p><p>I think of that's part reason why US coins are so overpriced, and don't seem like a good deal compared to many world coins that have not been subject to the slabbing craze. Slabbing has turned a hobby into a commodity, allowing investors to come in and buy coins they don't know anything about simply because it has an MS-65 or MS-66 label, and at the highest end the price gaps between each MS point has become exorbitant, while your VF, or F coins (unless rare) have languished as the red headed stepchild nobody wants. Many are simply tossed away into "junk silver" piles, to be melted or stored away in bags just for the metal content.</p><p><br /></p><p>I see the same thing happening with Heritage Auctions and ancients. How else do you explain why an Athenian Tet that was at best $2000 raw, sold for $30,000+ because of an MS* label? Or how the $30 "MS-65" coin we were tracking in a thread here and making fun of, ended up selling for hundreds of dollars because of the MS tag. You see the same with coins that get a VF or lower rating, they are usually sold cheap on eBay, sometimes lower than raw would get, because no one wants them. The MS mentality is creeping into our hobby. I wonder how long it will be before the threads in this form go from "I want to learn more about this coin", or "This coin might have a hole or a countermark, but it is historically fascinating because of ......" to simply "Disaster, I sent this in to certify MS but it came back AU", or "Is this raw coin an MS? Is it worth buying or not?", or "Here are the results from my submissions for slabbing."[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Sallent, post: 3553161, member: 76194"]Part of the reason I dislike slabbing is what it did to the prices of American coins. Before slab companies were a thing, you look at US catalogs and coins we're priced in several categories: Good, Fine, Very Fine, About Uncirculated, and Uncirculated. The price gaps between them weren't really that exorbitant either. Then if you look at catalogs after slabbing came in, all of the sudden there is a huge spike at the higher end, and a coin that would have sold for $70 in "Uncirculated Condition" might all of the sudden be worth $75 as MS-64, $120 as MS-65, $200 as MS-66, $350 as MS-67. And likewise I think it's depressed the other categories. Now if a coin is not worth slabbing, well, it's not really worth collecting. Especially when most collectors today will not buy a coin unless it's in a slab. I think of that's part reason why US coins are so overpriced, and don't seem like a good deal compared to many world coins that have not been subject to the slabbing craze. Slabbing has turned a hobby into a commodity, allowing investors to come in and buy coins they don't know anything about simply because it has an MS-65 or MS-66 label, and at the highest end the price gaps between each MS point has become exorbitant, while your VF, or F coins (unless rare) have languished as the red headed stepchild nobody wants. Many are simply tossed away into "junk silver" piles, to be melted or stored away in bags just for the metal content. I see the same thing happening with Heritage Auctions and ancients. How else do you explain why an Athenian Tet that was at best $2000 raw, sold for $30,000+ because of an MS* label? Or how the $30 "MS-65" coin we were tracking in a thread here and making fun of, ended up selling for hundreds of dollars because of the MS tag. You see the same with coins that get a VF or lower rating, they are usually sold cheap on eBay, sometimes lower than raw would get, because no one wants them. The MS mentality is creeping into our hobby. I wonder how long it will be before the threads in this form go from "I want to learn more about this coin", or "This coin might have a hole or a countermark, but it is historically fascinating because of ......" to simply "Disaster, I sent this in to certify MS but it came back AU", or "Is this raw coin an MS? Is it worth buying or not?", or "Here are the results from my submissions for slabbing."[/QUOTE]
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