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<p>[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 3736785, member: 10461"]You see, I was missing the "Skully" token that I had sold back in March.</p><p><br /></p><p><b><font face="Georgia"><font size="5"><a href="https://collectivecoin.com/lordmarcovan/SL50Qie7LLIUhnykKUjI/orvzMcgm5009Lrr4esyZ" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://collectivecoin.com/lordmarcovan/SL50Qie7LLIUhnykKUjI/orvzMcgm5009Lrr4esyZ" rel="nofollow">Belgium (Liège, Chapter of St. Lambert): copper communion token; memento mori, ca. 1680s</a></font></font></b></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1002098[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>So I was casually browsing around for a replacement. While I don't think these are especially rare, they're not always easy to find, either. They first came to my attention when CNG was auctioning several of them. I ended up paying around $115-ish for the example above when I won it in a Heritage auction.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are a few different varieties. Another type has a slightly different skull-and-bones <i><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori" rel="nofollow">memento mori</a> </i>motif and is dated, with the year 1686. I like the skull on this particular design a bit more, but kind of thought I might go for one of the dated ones next time.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I never could seem to find any more, or was always too late on the few I saw that <i>had</i> been for sale. They do seem to be rather popular, and tend to get snapped up quickly.</p><p><br /></p><p>But then I stumbled across the following group lots in a recent Belgian auction (Jean Elsen & ses Fils Auction 142). I bid a little over the estimate for each. To my surprise, I ended up winning both; the first for €360 ($394-ish USD) and the second for €265 ($290-ish USD), plus fees.</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3340&lot=938" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3340&lot=938" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/elsen/142/thumb00938.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a> </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3340&lot=1628" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3340&lot=1628" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/elsen/142/thumb01628.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></a> </p><p><br /></p><p>Look closely at the lot contents. The images are small and of low resolution, but you can see I will be having an interesting time going through these.</p><p><br /></p><p>There are <i>multiple</i> "Skullies" in there! And some other cool types, too. So I will be able to choose the one(s) I want, then later sell the remainder of the lots and <i>hopefully</i> recoup most if not all of my investment.</p><p><br /></p><p>Knowing relatively little about the coinage of Liège (let alone their 17th century tokens), I have no idea if I overbid or not, but I think these lots have some potential.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had partly forgotten I was bidding in Euros, not US dollars, so the surprise win on both lots did come with some sticker shock, and I had to sell some stuff to scrape up the funds, but hopefully it will be worth it.</p><p><br /></p><p>Ideally, I'll be getting another "Skully" on the cheap this way, and might make another find or two in the process.</p><p><br /></p><p>If anyone is interested in seeing what's in these lots, perhaps I can post some of the individual pieces here, over time, as I go through them.</p><p><br /></p><p><font size="1"><span style="color: #ffffff">Secret note to self- people who are interested-</span></font></p><p><font size="1"><span style="color: #ffffff">(Who else? There were one or two others. Must dig through PMs...)</span></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="lordmarcovan, post: 3736785, member: 10461"]You see, I was missing the "Skully" token that I had sold back in March. [B][FONT=Georgia][SIZE=5][URL='https://collectivecoin.com/lordmarcovan/SL50Qie7LLIUhnykKUjI/orvzMcgm5009Lrr4esyZ']Belgium (Liège, Chapter of St. Lambert): copper communion token; memento mori, ca. 1680s[/URL][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [ATTACH=full]1002098[/ATTACH] So I was casually browsing around for a replacement. While I don't think these are especially rare, they're not always easy to find, either. They first came to my attention when CNG was auctioning several of them. I ended up paying around $115-ish for the example above when I won it in a Heritage auction. There are a few different varieties. Another type has a slightly different skull-and-bones [I][URL='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_mori']memento mori[/URL] [/I]motif and is dated, with the year 1686. I like the skull on this particular design a bit more, but kind of thought I might go for one of the dated ones next time. But I never could seem to find any more, or was always too late on the few I saw that [I]had[/I] been for sale. They do seem to be rather popular, and tend to get snapped up quickly. But then I stumbled across the following group lots in a recent Belgian auction (Jean Elsen & ses Fils Auction 142). I bid a little over the estimate for each. To my surprise, I ended up winning both; the first for €360 ($394-ish USD) and the second for €265 ($290-ish USD), plus fees. [URL='https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3340&lot=938'][IMG]https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/elsen/142/thumb00938.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL='https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3340&lot=1628'][IMG]https://www.numisbids.com/sales/hosted/elsen/142/thumb01628.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Look closely at the lot contents. The images are small and of low resolution, but you can see I will be having an interesting time going through these. There are [I]multiple[/I] "Skullies" in there! And some other cool types, too. So I will be able to choose the one(s) I want, then later sell the remainder of the lots and [I]hopefully[/I] recoup most if not all of my investment. Knowing relatively little about the coinage of Liège (let alone their 17th century tokens), I have no idea if I overbid or not, but I think these lots have some potential. I had partly forgotten I was bidding in Euros, not US dollars, so the surprise win on both lots did come with some sticker shock, and I had to sell some stuff to scrape up the funds, but hopefully it will be worth it. Ideally, I'll be getting another "Skully" on the cheap this way, and might make another find or two in the process. If anyone is interested in seeing what's in these lots, perhaps I can post some of the individual pieces here, over time, as I go through them. [SIZE=1][COLOR=#ffffff]Secret note to self- people who are interested- (Who else? There were one or two others. Must dig through PMs...)[/COLOR][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
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