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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;superc, post: 1823952, member: 44079&quot;]Okay, I am annoyed.&nbsp; Some here may even be some of the people I am annoyed at.&nbsp; Dunno.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the thing.&nbsp; I use two different books for grading coins.&nbsp; US Coins (Redbook) and Numismatic Grading Standards.&nbsp; When it comes to Sitting Liberty Dollars they both agree.</p><p><br /></p><p>According to those sources:</p><p>before ANY Sitting Liberty Dollar can be termed &#039;Very Good.&#039; at least 3 letters of the word&nbsp; &#039;LIBERTY&#039; on the shield MUST be readable.</p><p><br /></p><p>before ANY Sitting Liberty Dollar can be termed &#039;Fine.&#039; all 7 letters of the word &#039;LIBERTY&#039; on the shield MUST be visible.</p><p><br /></p><p>before ANY Sitting Liberty Dollar can be termed &#039;Very Fine,&#039; all 7 of the letters must be clear and strong.</p><p><br /></p><p>So let me say I am incredibly annoyed to see hundreds of supposedly professional sources listing on Ebay coins with NO letters visible on the shield whatsoever (some without even a trace of the shield itself showing) and describing the coin as fine or very fine.</p><p><br /></p><p>Go to the Ampex ad (Ebay) for Sitting Liberty Dollarss in Very Fine, &#039;buy it now&#039;.&nbsp; Take a good look at the picture of the sample they show.&nbsp; Letters?&nbsp; What letters?</p><p><br /></p><p>Worse, in example after example I am seeing slabbed Sitting Liberty Dollars, both NCG and PCGS graded F15 or even VF without a trace of letters on the shield, or just one.</p><p><br /></p><p>Was there a major grading standards change for the Sitting Liberty Dollar which I somehow missed?&nbsp; Both grading services advertise they use ANA standards, so how the heck do they slab a Sitting Liberty without even a shield to carry the Liberty letters as an F15?</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, sure, they have pretty eagles.&nbsp; So what?&nbsp; The coin reverse is not mentioned in those grading standards, so who cares about it?&nbsp; The dumb bird doesn&#039;t even get mentioned until we get to the XF grade.&nbsp; No shield, it is AG, a shield with no letters on the shield it is a G.</p><p><br /></p><p>Adding to the annoyance is those claiming VG, F or VF for coins that barely make G, is they list the coins at the price a VG, F or a VF would deserve. </p><p><br /></p><p>What I am saying is please stop over grading.&nbsp; I have no idea what to about the over graded PCGS and NGC Sitting Liberties I see for sale beyond saying I wouldn&#039;t touch them at the grade given them.&nbsp; Clearly to me both grading companies need to reveal by what arcane magic they give a junk coin an F or VF grade.</p><p><br /></p><p>Let me also say, thank you to the honest guys and gals who (like me) follow the ANA standards and list a coin with no shield, or only 2 liberty letters showing as AG or G rather than claim it is a VF12.&nbsp; Yes, I did find some of those on the Ebay.&nbsp; Honest vendors on Ebay.&nbsp; Imagine that.&nbsp; &nbsp; <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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