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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Conder101, post: 2741545, member: 66&quot;]I&#039;m pretty dang sure because after 1836 variety specialists stop using positional relationships between the lettering and the central devices to identify varieties because they no longer change.&nbsp; All coins of a given year have all the features in the same position.&nbsp; The date was still hand punched so after 1836 that is the feature and it&#039;s positional changes that it most used for variety identification.&nbsp; Now the MASTER die may have still been hand done but it would have been used for multiple years.&nbsp; Until about 1868 or 69 they were using a Master Die/ Working Hub/working die system.&nbsp; It was in 68 or 69 they went to the Master Hub/ Master. Die/. Working Hub/Working die system.&nbsp; That could be what they meant.&nbsp; They weren&#039;t using Master hubs until about 1870.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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