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<p>[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3301888, member: 56859"]The eagle's wings are closed rather than open. Your lovely Aurelian tet is Emmett 3923.5, Milne 4419, and Dattari 5475.</p><p><br /></p><p>As for silvering, to the best of my knowledge silvering was never a part of the production of Alexandrian tetradrachms, so maybe you're seeing some reflection or other patina?</p><p><br /></p><p>Looking up your coin caused me to look more closely at Milne. He took into consideration many minor details which Emmett disregarded when creating catalog numbers (yay Emmett!). However, in Emmett's concordance tables those little details are not considered and apparently the Milne numbers are just the first number of a list when such a list contained other minutiae. For instance, in the Emmett concordance table, E 3923.5 equates with Milne 4418 but 4418 has a different obverse legend. Milne 4419 describes your coin</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]874956[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>B1 is the legend:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]874959[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>k7 is the bust type, from a list that covers all coins in the book:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]874960[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This degree of specificity of the busts seems ridiculous to me, especially when so often the strike, wear, and corrosion makes determination of clothing details sketchy at best, and again: does it matter in any way? Does it connote some important historical detail? It seems unlikely. Maybe Milne suffered from OCD <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>Milne even has a code for the position of the <b>wreath ties!! </b>Why?! Is there some secret code contained in the wreath tie positions? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /><img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> He is referring to the ties of the wreath on the emperor's bust, not of the wreath in the eagle's beak.</p><p><br /></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]874962[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Speaking of, Milne says your coin's wreath ties should be (c), "both ties turned backwards".</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]874963[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>It looks like yours is really (f), "both ties turned backwards and <b>curled</b>", although I don't know just how upturned the ends of the ties have to be in order to be considered "curled". I can imagine certain sellers exploiting this: "rare variant unlisted in Milne" <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's the Dattari entry:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]874966[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, I'm an Emmett fangirl <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. I don't see the purpose of dissecting the minute details of ancient coins unless there is some purpose behind the details. Granted, it is possible that the purpose may only be revealed after such study... but <i>wreath tie position</i>? Gimme a break <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. I'll turn a blind eye on Emmett's breakdown of the various eagle reverses, which seems a bit too much to me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="TIF, post: 3301888, member: 56859"]The eagle's wings are closed rather than open. Your lovely Aurelian tet is Emmett 3923.5, Milne 4419, and Dattari 5475. As for silvering, to the best of my knowledge silvering was never a part of the production of Alexandrian tetradrachms, so maybe you're seeing some reflection or other patina? Looking up your coin caused me to look more closely at Milne. He took into consideration many minor details which Emmett disregarded when creating catalog numbers (yay Emmett!). However, in Emmett's concordance tables those little details are not considered and apparently the Milne numbers are just the first number of a list when such a list contained other minutiae. For instance, in the Emmett concordance table, E 3923.5 equates with Milne 4418 but 4418 has a different obverse legend. Milne 4419 describes your coin [ATTACH=full]874956[/ATTACH] B1 is the legend: [ATTACH=full]874959[/ATTACH] k7 is the bust type, from a list that covers all coins in the book: [ATTACH=full]874960[/ATTACH] This degree of specificity of the busts seems ridiculous to me, especially when so often the strike, wear, and corrosion makes determination of clothing details sketchy at best, and again: does it matter in any way? Does it connote some important historical detail? It seems unlikely. Maybe Milne suffered from OCD :D. Milne even has a code for the position of the [B]wreath ties!! [/B]Why?! Is there some secret code contained in the wreath tie positions? :joyful::joyful: He is referring to the ties of the wreath on the emperor's bust, not of the wreath in the eagle's beak. [CENTER][ATTACH=full]874962[/ATTACH][/CENTER] Speaking of, Milne says your coin's wreath ties should be (c), "both ties turned backwards". [ATTACH=full]874963[/ATTACH] It looks like yours is really (f), "both ties turned backwards and [B]curled[/B]", although I don't know just how upturned the ends of the ties have to be in order to be considered "curled". I can imagine certain sellers exploiting this: "rare variant unlisted in Milne" :D. Here's the Dattari entry: [ATTACH=full]874966[/ATTACH] Yes, I'm an Emmett fangirl :D. I don't see the purpose of dissecting the minute details of ancient coins unless there is some purpose behind the details. Granted, it is possible that the purpose may only be revealed after such study... but [I]wreath tie position[/I]? Gimme a break :rolleyes:. I'll turn a blind eye on Emmett's breakdown of the various eagle reverses, which seems a bit too much to me.[/QUOTE]
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