Silver Medieval coin???

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Steven Michael Gardner, Feb 13, 2020.

  1. I don't have much if any knowledge of medieval coins as I tend to collect roman & pre-roman age coins... So I am hoping someone will identify this one for me and possibly locate the wildwinds reference # would be a help... Thanks!

    Sincerely Steven

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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    That is a silver half-groschen from Lithuania, under Polish rule.

    There's a date at the top- 15-something- but I can't quite make it out in your photo.

    I have one (later date, but Mint State) in my collection.


    Yours is earlier- I think from the first decade of the 1500s (that's likely "150(x)" in the date.) They're pretty common coins and can usually be had in the $15-25 range in that sort of condition. They're really neat early dated silver, though, and I have always liked them.
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  4. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Supporter! Supporter

    That's a handsome coin with a great action scene :D.
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  5. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    These coins have so much going for them.
    • They have interesting early dates
    • They're silver
    • They aren't too tiny
    • There's a cool eagle on one side...
    • and a charging knight on the other
    • And they're astonishingly affordable for 500-year-old silver!
  6. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I wonder why they are so much less expensive than, say, English silver coins of the same time period?
  7. Xodus

    Xodus Well-Known Member

    I think it's just about who has the most money to collect the coins, and which countries/time periods mean most to them. England / Britain has played a world-wide role in shaping this Earth, and Poland less-so. As an American, I was inundated with English history (in school) and the only things I know about Poland are because of WW2. That being said, I am more inclined to collect coins from England because their history and the monarchs are familiar to me.
  8. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    I agree in the USA British history is usually studied to some extent and far more likely than Polish history. At least most Americans would recognize names like Alfred the Great, William the Conqueror, Richard the Lion Heart and his consort Elenore of Aquitaine, Henry VIII, Elizabeth I and all the way to Churchill. John Sobieski, Casimir Pulaski, Thaddeus Kosciusko, Marshal Pilsudski just don't ring a bell to most Americans. Still I think there might be something else. I see these Polish and Lithuanian coins all the time, not just at coin shows, but curiosity shops and flea markets. I think there may be something, more than just name recognition or familiarity that accounts for their abundance and ubiquity.
  9. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Lest we forget Nikolai Copernicus?
  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Someone did a series of these in a thread, going from 1400-1600 or some such...
  11. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Jeeze, how could I have forgotten Copernicus whose studies and observations changed the whole world, literally.
  12. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    Not to put too fine a point on it but while doing research on Copernicus for a friend & Rice U. Statistics Professor, I came across a few other Poles you might have heard
    of: Pope John Paul II, Frederik Chopin, Madame Curie, Wanda Landowska (Harpsichord), Zbigniew Brzezinski, Joseph Conrad, Baron Von Richthoven, Lech Walesa, Catherine The Great, & Czeslaw Slania (famous stamp engraver) just to name a few.
    Heck, was I impressed,
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  13. Kentucky

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    Interesting fact, when Marie Curie was born, Poland wasn't a country. When she named one of the elements she found "Polonium" it was a political statement.
  14. TheRed

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    Not to be too pedantic, but Catherine the Great, Empress of Russia was born to a German Lutheran family known as the House of Anhalt. The place of her birth, Stettin, may now be in Poland, but was then part of the Kingdom of Prussia. An interesting fact is that her first name at birth was Sophie.
  15. J.T. Parker

    J.T. Parker Well-Known Member

    And Copernicus was born and died in Royal Prussia, a region that had been part of the Kingdom of Poland since 1466.
    Still considered Polish!
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & odd Moderator

    Primary point: this coin is Lithuanian.

    As many of you know, Lithuania has that charging knight as its national emblem, down to this very day, so it's been on a number of more modern coins.
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