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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1093103, member: 27832"]This is the key assertion, and one that I think we'll be able to test.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm becoming more convinced that the primary "wear process" is <i>not</i> "squashing down", but actual removal of metal. How do we determine which of us is right?</p><p><br /></p><p>I agree with your assertion that coins in XF or AU will usually be within weight tolerance. I don't think it's because metal has been "pushed around" instead of "worn off", though -- I believe it's because metal has been "worn off", but it's not enough to take most coins out of tolerance. (Remember, those two Roosies I posted are actually slightly <i>above</i> specified weight, although still within tolerance -- they could afford to lose more than a coin with "low birth weight".)</p><p><br /></p><p>I could take a few BU pennies, rub them on cloth for a while, and see whether there's a demonstrable loss of weight. I don't know, though, whether that would count as "typical wear". So, what <i>would</i> constitute a reasonable simulation of typical wear? Carrying them in my pocket with my keys? Running them through the laundry a few times? (I've got some very shiny, but very beaten-up quarters that my son forgot to take out of his pocket before laundry day!) I want to do some sort of longitudinal test, following the same coin as it wears, because it's hard to compare coins that may have started out at different weights. If I can't do that, I need to get statistics from <i>lots</i> (hundreds) of coins; that would be tedious at best, and I don't trust my grading skills enough to group coins accurately into grade bins.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've got my own ideas as to what goes on as a coin wears, but I'm not nearly so interested in "defending" those ideas as in <i>finding out</i> what's happening. Now I've got some equipment that will let me get the measurements I need. Let's come up with some testing procedures![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 1093103, member: 27832"]This is the key assertion, and one that I think we'll be able to test. I'm becoming more convinced that the primary "wear process" is [I]not[/I] "squashing down", but actual removal of metal. How do we determine which of us is right? I agree with your assertion that coins in XF or AU will usually be within weight tolerance. I don't think it's because metal has been "pushed around" instead of "worn off", though -- I believe it's because metal has been "worn off", but it's not enough to take most coins out of tolerance. (Remember, those two Roosies I posted are actually slightly [I]above[/I] specified weight, although still within tolerance -- they could afford to lose more than a coin with "low birth weight".) I could take a few BU pennies, rub them on cloth for a while, and see whether there's a demonstrable loss of weight. I don't know, though, whether that would count as "typical wear". So, what [I]would[/I] constitute a reasonable simulation of typical wear? Carrying them in my pocket with my keys? Running them through the laundry a few times? (I've got some very shiny, but very beaten-up quarters that my son forgot to take out of his pocket before laundry day!) I want to do some sort of longitudinal test, following the same coin as it wears, because it's hard to compare coins that may have started out at different weights. If I can't do that, I need to get statistics from [I]lots[/I] (hundreds) of coins; that would be tedious at best, and I don't trust my grading skills enough to group coins accurately into grade bins. I've got my own ideas as to what goes on as a coin wears, but I'm not nearly so interested in "defending" those ideas as in [I]finding out[/I] what's happening. Now I've got some equipment that will let me get the measurements I need. Let's come up with some testing procedures![/QUOTE]
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