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<p>[QUOTE="clembo, post: 425868, member: 8033"]As we have seen in many other different threads there are a lot of questions about the price of silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>How does one buy? What should one buy? Should one buy? Why are prices where they are?</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I am no financial wizard but I have been doing some reading, observing and listening.</p><p><br /></p><p>A thread on another forum I visit discussed Kitco and buying in "pools". Basically buying silver on paper. You never have the physical product - you have it on "paper". It's much cheaper and so far easy to sell. Buy why?</p><p>I figure because people are still buying the "paper" so the funds are there. Now, what if several thousand people demanded the physical version? Could Kitco (or any other paper seller) supply it? I tend to doubt that very much.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now look at physical silver. Let's say spot is at $11. Call a dealer that used to sell at $1 over spot and they want $4 over spot unless in very large quantities. Yes, it happens where I work everyday but why?</p><p><br /></p><p>For starters the boss has way more than that into it. People sold like crazy when it was $18+ an ounce. Dealers bought like crazy. They certainly did NOT see it dropping $6 or so in a few short months.</p><p>Although it may, and should, balance out dealers just plain don't like selling at a loss. We still sell 2008 Silver Eagles at $22. Hey, the boss shelled out nearly $19 each for them. He's not willing to take that big of a hit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Think it's just the "small" shops? Think again. Visit some of the bigger sites. You'll see that even buying in bulk where you once may have paid $1.75 or so over spot for silver eagles you'll now pay at least $3 over spot.</p><p><br /></p><p>The discrepancy between "paper" and "physical" is huge. Maybe there's not as much physical out there as is let on?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now take a look at 90% (junk silver) coins. Some people are still lucky enough to be able to pick up junk at near spot. Is it because the supply is still there? Personally I think junk is the best route to go in the long run.</p><p>No it does not command the same premium as ASEs etc. However, it costs a fraction and is REAL.</p><p>As price rise again (and I feel they will) the proportionate premium of bullion vs. junk should close greatly. Example: If silver shoots up to $20/ounce selling ASE's at 24 or so would work for dealers.</p><p>Junk would gain proportionally. If I can buy at 8x face then sell at 16x I've doubled my money.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also look at ratios. Last time I bought gold the ratio was roughly 45/1 silver/gold.</p><p>Today it is roughly 71/1. Why is this? It has generally been hanging about 50-55/1.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now I'm considering dumping a bit of gold in a trade for junk. I don't own much gold but if I could get junk silver at a 65/1 ratio I'd seriously consider it. For an ounce of gold I gain rougly 20 unces of silver which I feel has a lot more room to move up when all is said and done.</p><p><br /></p><p>Lots of possibilities and no one has a crystal ball.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thoughts, opinions?</p><p><br /></p><p>clembo[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="clembo, post: 425868, member: 8033"]As we have seen in many other different threads there are a lot of questions about the price of silver. How does one buy? What should one buy? Should one buy? Why are prices where they are? Now I am no financial wizard but I have been doing some reading, observing and listening. A thread on another forum I visit discussed Kitco and buying in "pools". Basically buying silver on paper. You never have the physical product - you have it on "paper". It's much cheaper and so far easy to sell. Buy why? I figure because people are still buying the "paper" so the funds are there. Now, what if several thousand people demanded the physical version? Could Kitco (or any other paper seller) supply it? I tend to doubt that very much. Now look at physical silver. Let's say spot is at $11. Call a dealer that used to sell at $1 over spot and they want $4 over spot unless in very large quantities. Yes, it happens where I work everyday but why? For starters the boss has way more than that into it. People sold like crazy when it was $18+ an ounce. Dealers bought like crazy. They certainly did NOT see it dropping $6 or so in a few short months. Although it may, and should, balance out dealers just plain don't like selling at a loss. We still sell 2008 Silver Eagles at $22. Hey, the boss shelled out nearly $19 each for them. He's not willing to take that big of a hit. Think it's just the "small" shops? Think again. Visit some of the bigger sites. You'll see that even buying in bulk where you once may have paid $1.75 or so over spot for silver eagles you'll now pay at least $3 over spot. The discrepancy between "paper" and "physical" is huge. Maybe there's not as much physical out there as is let on? Now take a look at 90% (junk silver) coins. Some people are still lucky enough to be able to pick up junk at near spot. Is it because the supply is still there? Personally I think junk is the best route to go in the long run. No it does not command the same premium as ASEs etc. However, it costs a fraction and is REAL. As price rise again (and I feel they will) the proportionate premium of bullion vs. junk should close greatly. Example: If silver shoots up to $20/ounce selling ASE's at 24 or so would work for dealers. Junk would gain proportionally. If I can buy at 8x face then sell at 16x I've doubled my money. I also look at ratios. Last time I bought gold the ratio was roughly 45/1 silver/gold. Today it is roughly 71/1. Why is this? It has generally been hanging about 50-55/1. Now I'm considering dumping a bit of gold in a trade for junk. I don't own much gold but if I could get junk silver at a 65/1 ratio I'd seriously consider it. For an ounce of gold I gain rougly 20 unces of silver which I feel has a lot more room to move up when all is said and done. Lots of possibilities and no one has a crystal ball. Thoughts, opinions? clembo[/QUOTE]
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