Silver Eagle Reverse... What is this????

Hopefully someone at PCGS has seen this thread so they can contact me. I'd like to get this verified.

 

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PCGS does not care. You'll need to contact them.

 

As with most companies they only care about lining their pockets with green.

 

Obama grading coins?lol

 

...and that is the problem! You did not duplicate the OP's coin. The letters on his piece are not backwards. I made some "funny stuff" too this weekend - also on the floor .

PS if I get to Daytona again, I'll take you to lunch.

 

Not to me. Perspectives, my friend.

 

@GDJMSP

You got me on that, so you are half correct. My pieces were all backwards too. Problem is I'm waiting for one of the members to make something good. I have some token dies but no press so with a sledge, I could make a reasonable "fake" on "000" sandpaper if I had the actual token made from the die.

 

I know what you were saying though. One side will have the impression looking "backwards" while the other side will have the impression looking like a normal coin.

The difficult part is duplicating the image on the opposite side to mirror that of the coin. If you can duplicate that in your home then I'll be skeptical of this disc and all of the others.


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That is EXACTLY what everyone said. You need a die so without one the OP's coin cannot be made at home! Now all the people who claim they can make one of these like the OP's better get to work or it was just trash talking.

 

NOTE: I posted nothing in this thread UNTIL my post #51 - soon after members started posting how easy it would be to make one of these pieces!

So far I've seen NOTHING like the OP's piece here and I'm still waiting.

Your supposition is one that makes sense. This could also be possibly done using counterfeit dies. It is not a "squeeze" or "hammer" job. That's all.

 

Could it have been an exhibit? Maybe, I just don't remember.

If it were an exhibit given to kids most of those kids would have shown their numismatist parents who would have then shoved them deep into a safe.

Where are the hundreds if not thousands of "samples" that were possibly given out to kids in attendance? Why have only a handful shown up in the publics view? If your idea about their coming into existence is true, where are the missing disc's??

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I think I would have looked at as a cute gimmick, not especially worth hanging on to. When I saw one years later in TPG plastic, my reaction would've been... well, about the same as my reaction actually was. I would've been a little sore, though, to realize that there were people willing to bid serious money for the gimmick I tossed.

 

I stated that I could make it with equipment that I have at work, but that's not exactly a cheap task. I'd have to break into normal production for a pet project just to demonstrate that it could be done. Not worth the effort as far as I'm concerned.

 

Thanks for the support to help make my point.

NOTE to EVERYONE: I guess that It ain't easy and it ain't cheap to make counterfeits after all...but we can all still dream and talk about it can't we.

That's one down; anyone else wish to prove how easy these things are to produce? I hope someone does this, maybe at next years Summer Seminar. Even the guys hand striking tokens there can do it - all you need is a DIE, some emery paper, and a piece struck from that die.

 

If I were making them for the purpose of deception, I could produce a bunch of them and easily make a nice profit, but since I have no desire to do such a thing, it's not worth the cost to do it just to show that it can be done.

I did thoroughly enjoy how you turned it around like you somehow proved me wrong because I didn't (or couldn't) produce them though, nicely done.