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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 4250707, member: 112&quot;]No, I&#039;m not saying that. They readily acknowledge that it is their intent to make the coins tone. They are claiming that their intent to make the coins tone doesn&#039;t make any difference - that it&#039;s still natural toning even though they did it on purpose.</p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of folks say or claim that just because they intentionally put coins in albums or wrap them in tissue paper or something similar to that, even though the only reason they do so is because they know it will make the coins tone - that what they&#039;re doing is natural toning and not artificial toning. BUT - those same people say if a guy puts the coins in a sealed box, pumps in gasses etc, that is absolutely artificial toning - in their opinion. (even though they can&#039;t tell one from the other)</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m saying there isn&#039;t any difference between the two things, both are artificial toning. Intent is the same in both cases, and the chemicals used are the same in both cases. So if one is artificial then the other has to be artificial as well. </p><p><br /></p><p>If you take 3 coins, all the same coin, all as close to identical as they can get in every respect. 1 guy puts his in an album - he has no idea that this will make it tone. Guy 2 puts his in an album knowing full well it will make it tone. Guy 3 puts his in a sealed box and pumps in gasses. </p><p><br /></p><p>Ya take all three coins, put them all 3 side by side and they all have very similar toning. You have a 100 people look at them and nobody can see any real difference between any of them. They&#039;re all pretty, the luster still shines through on all of them. Not a single person, not even 1, can say this one&#039;s artificial and that one isn&#039;t.</p><p><br /></p><p>So you tell me, if that&#039;s the case, then what&#039;s the difference between any of those coins ?</p><p><br /></p><p>There&#039;s only 1 answer Eddie - two guys toned their coins on purpose, 1 guy did it by accident - intent, because that&#039;s the only difference there is.</p><p><br /></p><p>And yet people claim that 2 of them are natural and 1 is artificial - but they absolutely cannot tell you which one is which by looking at them. And you can run them all 3 through any electronic gizmo, any scientific instrument there is - and you still can&#039;t tell any difference in any of the 3.</p><p><br /></p><p>Bottom line, there isn&#039;t any difference, all 3 are the same.</p><p><br /></p><p>So when I said this above - </p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>The point you&#039;re missing Eddie is that even though intent is/was different, intent doesn&#039;t make any difference in the actual result - the toning that occurs.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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