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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 4239574, member: 112&quot;]Well eddie, let&#039;s say 2 guys wrap some coins up in tissue paper and put them away. Guy one does so simply because he thinks it will help protect his coins from contact marks, scratches and the like. Protecting his coins is all he&#039;s trying to do, and he has no idea, he&#039;s completely unaware, that the paper will cause his coins to tone.</p><p><br /></p><p>Guy 2 he knows all about tissue paper and how it makes coins tone. So he quite intentionally wraps his coins up in tissue paper and puts them away - eagerly waiting for and anticipating the pretty colors on his coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>&nbsp;And sure enough, at some point down the road both guys go look at their coins. Guy one is surprised, maybe even shocked at what he sees, and his reaction may be a good one or bad one for him depending on how he looks at things. Guy two is simply thrilled when he takes coins out and sees all the pretty colors. </p><p><br /></p><p>Point being of course that both sets of coins are toned. The one and only difference is/was the intent each guy had because the result was the same. </p><p><br /></p><p>Guy two purposely caused the toning, and in my eyes that makes it artificial.</p><p><br /></p><p>Guy one had no clue it would happen, and in my eyes that makes it natural. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now, the difference between you and me is, apparently, - one of definitions - as in what is natural and what isn&#039;t.</p><p><br /></p><p>So now let me ask you a different question. Guy one does everything the same. But guy 2, this time he takes his coins, puts them in a sealed box with valves and stuff attached to it, pumps in the same chemicals (in the form of gasses but highly concentrated) that were in the tissue paper, and merely waits for a few hours instead of a year, 2, 3 whatever, for the toning to occur. </p><p><br /></p><p>Now in my eyes guy two has artificially toned his coins - with the exact same chemicals as the guy one had tone his naturally. And I&#039;ll bet you&#039;d agree that guy 2 artificially toned his coins in this situation.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, how can guy 2 in this situation be any different than he was in the 1st situation ? Same chemicals in both situations, same intention in both situations, same result in both situations. It can&#039;t be natural in one and artificial in the other. But it seems you&#039;re trying to tell me it can be.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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