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<p>[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2886498, member: 27832"]I'm finding it hard to pull myself away from this. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie11" alt=":rolleyes:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>The paper's author says he expected to see a SG of 10.31 for US 90% coinage, and instead was seeing 10.18 or 10.19. That's just over a 1% discrepancy.</p><p><br /></p><p>He estimates his own weighing accuracy (without any supporting evidence) at +/- 0.05 g, a hair under 0.5%.</p><p><br /></p><p>The density of water decreases by 0.2% or more as it warms from 10 C (50 F, cold tap water) to 20 C (68 F, "standard room temperature"). Colder water will yield lower SG measurements; warm water will yield higher measurements. The author doesn't say anything about controlling for this. (This also opens the possibility that the scale itself drifts as its temperature changes.)</p><p><br /></p><p>The author doesn't say anything about the dimensions of the nylon thread he used for suspending coins. This <i>might</i> be negligible, but I'd expect it to have more of an effect as coins got smaller -- i.e. ASEs and silver dollars would show a higher SG, quarters and dimes would show lower, since nylon is less dense than coin metal.</p><p><br /></p><p>The author doesn't say anything about the stability over time of his scale. I know that mine shifts predictably over time (I'll see if I can dig up the post where I talk about it). If he wanted to control for that, he should measure that ASE (which he said read a little <i>high</i> -- see above for large vs. small coins!) <i>twice</i>, once <i>before</i> measuring the suspicious half-dollar and once <i>after</i>, and see if <i>those</i> measurements are consistent.</p><p><br /></p><p>Between all these sources of error, I'm going to say that the author's measurements are easily within the expected range for true 90% silver.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't mean any of this to cast aspersions on the author. Like I said, I admire and want to encourage people who actually Go Forth And Experiment. But again, if your measurements contradict a huge body of existing evidence, <i>you really need to check your measurements</i> before announcing that breakthrough (or scandal).[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="-jeffB, post: 2886498, member: 27832"]I'm finding it hard to pull myself away from this. :rolleyes: The paper's author says he expected to see a SG of 10.31 for US 90% coinage, and instead was seeing 10.18 or 10.19. That's just over a 1% discrepancy. He estimates his own weighing accuracy (without any supporting evidence) at +/- 0.05 g, a hair under 0.5%. The density of water decreases by 0.2% or more as it warms from 10 C (50 F, cold tap water) to 20 C (68 F, "standard room temperature"). Colder water will yield lower SG measurements; warm water will yield higher measurements. The author doesn't say anything about controlling for this. (This also opens the possibility that the scale itself drifts as its temperature changes.) The author doesn't say anything about the dimensions of the nylon thread he used for suspending coins. This [I]might[/I] be negligible, but I'd expect it to have more of an effect as coins got smaller -- i.e. ASEs and silver dollars would show a higher SG, quarters and dimes would show lower, since nylon is less dense than coin metal. The author doesn't say anything about the stability over time of his scale. I know that mine shifts predictably over time (I'll see if I can dig up the post where I talk about it). If he wanted to control for that, he should measure that ASE (which he said read a little [I]high[/I] -- see above for large vs. small coins!) [I]twice[/I], once [I]before[/I] measuring the suspicious half-dollar and once [I]after[/I], and see if [I]those[/I] measurements are consistent. Between all these sources of error, I'm going to say that the author's measurements are easily within the expected range for true 90% silver. I don't mean any of this to cast aspersions on the author. Like I said, I admire and want to encourage people who actually Go Forth And Experiment. But again, if your measurements contradict a huge body of existing evidence, [I]you really need to check your measurements[/I] before announcing that breakthrough (or scandal).[/QUOTE]
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